Project Quarm - 1 Box Planes of Power

[Walex]

Originally Posted by Landroval [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Three wizards and a bard quadding at tables is better exp than any charm group can muster in POP.

You're wrong.

Thanks for your input. Tables exp is certainly comparable to a charm pet down at depth 3 in Plane of Water but a quad group suffers from downtime while the puller rounds up the mobs, and then needing to single-kill everything that respawns as a caster since they can't be bunched for quadding. I've done both of these quite a bit (four wizards, actually) and can confirm that Plane of Water comes out slightly ahead.

All bets are off if you add an enchanter to a tables group anyway, though. PoP doesn't see any targeted AE upgrades for wizards so they're stuck using their Level 51 pillar of frost. An enchanter pet or two will easily pull ahead.

[Landroval]

Originally Posted by Walex [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for your input. Tables exp is certainly comparable to a charm pet down at depth 3 in Plane of Water but a quad group suffers from downtime while the puller rounds up the mobs, and then needing to single-kill everything that respawns as a caster since they can't be bunched for quadding. I've done both of these quite a bit (four wizards, actually) and can confirm that Plane of Water comes out slightly ahead.

All bets are off if you add an enchanter to a tables group anyway, though. PoP doesn't see any targeted AE upgrades for wizards so they're stuck using their Level 51 pillar of frost. An enchanter pet or two will easily pull ahead.

There is no downtime. I do it on takp all the time. I just rotate the wizard with the highest mana to be agro holder.

The exp is by far the best available, and even moreso if you out of group the bard and add another wiz or two.

Three wizards at Fishlord also out-xp a charm setup, which requires a dedicated bard per charmpet.

Three wizards can also indefinitely stunlock mobs if synchronized properly, which can entirely trivial the Xegony event, and any other content with lvl 64 mobs. You can even weave draughts in between the stuns essentially losing no efficiency from Draught spam.

At tables, I can generally clear 8 quads per repop and clear out all the "always caster/chaplain" PHes sparsely spawned in the 28 mob rotation netting about 39 to 41 kills per repop at C2.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Walex [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shamans lose their ability to solo like they do here after Velious; mobs start hitting harder, have more HP and Torpor doesn't get upgraded. They do get Quiesence but it's really just torpor without the snare component and can't really keep up.

This is not true: I soloed a ton with my Shaman in Luclin (and in LoY). I have vivid memories of solo farming those grimlok critters in some Luclin zone with a funnny name, just as a for instance.

[Landroval]

Essentially none of what he says is true. Without a bard dedicated to mezzing a charmpet, hasted charmpet grinding is riddled with frequent deaths, and even with one it's still a common occurence

[Walex]

Originally Posted by Landroval [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Essentially none of what he says is true. Without a bard dedicated to mezzing a charmpet, hasted charmpet grinding is riddled with frequent deaths, and even with one it's still a common occurence

Not true. git gud, learn 2 charm

[radda]

Originally Posted by Landroval [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Essentially none of what he says is true. Without a bard dedicated to mezzing a charmpet, hasted charmpet grinding is riddled with frequent deaths, and even with one it's still a common occurence

sorry you don't got enchanter skills

[Walex]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is not true: I soloed a ton with my Shaman in Luclin (and in LoY). I have vivid memories of solo farming those grimlok critters in some Luclin zone with a funnny name, just as a for instance.

Sorry I must have misspoke. I didn't mean that Shamans cant solo anything. Any class can solo with enough work or patience. I just meant their ability to solo much better than most other classes like here on P99 ends, mostly due to their heals not keeping up with the new generation of mobs.

[Awsten_Tx]

Are the archery mechanics going to be classic or p99?

[Trexller]

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[Botten]

curious if you charm a mob and add items -> camp out the charm -> then have the other player kill said mob is a means to transfer items.