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Old 11-16-2023, 10:58 AM
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If root aggro is truly the same as stubble then by far best tradable warrior threat setup is

https://wiki.project1999.com/Herbalist%27s_Spade
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Old 11-16-2023, 11:04 AM
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But then you need to do an archaeology/gardener/gravedigger theme toon which really limits the most thematic deity selections…
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Old 11-16-2023, 12:46 PM
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Dps parsers can also draw distribution charts of hit amounts, calculate average hits and all sorts of other wonderful things as well as simply parse dps. While your home grown solutions are cool and doubtlessly appropriately effective, you're really missing out by not trying out gamparse. Maybe run it on a VM if you are too worried about malware?
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Old 11-16-2023, 12:54 PM
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Dps parsers can also draw distribution charts of hit amounts, calculate average hits and all sorts of other wonderful things as well as simply parse dps. While your home grown solutions are cool and doubtlessly appropriately effective, you're really missing out by not trying out gamparse. Maybe run it on a VM if you are too worried about malware?
It's not about malware. I simply know that programs have bugs in them (especially freeware), and I don't really care enough to vet Gameparse. It's easy enough to do it yourself, and you remove any factors that can skew the data.

Any bugs that are present may affect your outcomes, and you have no way of knowing unless you are able to debug Gameparse specifically.
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Old 11-16-2023, 12:50 PM
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Just one thing, even war are better off with 2h for dps now . Which knights would also use. If ya dpsing you shouldn’t be dual wielding it’s worse dps.
You're misunderstanding; when I said dual wield, I mean swapping to an offhand weapon inbetween 2-hander swings. Paladins lose a lot of DPS compared to an ideally played Warrior/Ranger/Monk because of not having dual wield (plus all the other reasons).

Paladins between some attack swings should swap to shield to get bashes in, but it's such a tiny DPS addition, really not even an "addition", just the baseline of getting to use their attack skill that most other melee always get to use.

Shadowknights are the most easymode, they never need to swap (when playing one of the slam races). Their additional pet DPS makes me prefer them over Paladins on average. Incidentally, in 1999 SK's were the best melee DPS, aside from certain raid situations, because of the pet attacking much faster when given low delay weapons.
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Old 11-16-2023, 01:17 PM
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You're misunderstanding; when I said dual wield, I mean swapping to an offhand weapon inbetween 2-hander swings. Paladins lose a lot of DPS compared to an ideally played Warrior/Ranger/Monk because of not having dual wield (plus all the other reasons).
There is at max 1 person (you) out there doing this.
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Old 11-17-2023, 08:58 AM
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There is at max 1 person (you) out there doing this.
Wrong, it has been happening since 1999, and the Warrior and Monk who won BotB did this. If you are too lazy to put the effort in, that is your own problem. Granted, the amount of robotic execution it requires without a macro is not the most fun, but playing melee in this game is not that fun anyway. Might as well do something more than stand around autoattacking when it matters for a fight.

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That's not even going to work. When you remove your 2h, your offhand is basically going to fire immediately.
You don't understand how it works. You don't leave auto-attack on. Using auto-attack isn't needed at all, weapon attacks can be manually pressed.

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The off-hand swap isnt worth it.
Yes it is, you're going to get a 20% DPS increase at minimum. That can absolutely make the difference between being able to solo something or not with a character, and for the general amount of MOB's you can farm when grinding.

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Most quality 2h's are around 40 delay, fully hasted that's 20 delay.
2+ seconds is sufficient to do the swaps but there are many times where a melee does not have full haste (aka, playing actual classic EQ before everyone has full haste gear/buffs, or any time a melee is doing something without a high level Enchanter around to buff them). It was 4+ second attack delays for Warriors in many situations in 1999, hence why the technique was born. It's boring as fuck standing around and just staring at the screen waiting for your character to do something, and the DPS increase when swapping is very noticeable.
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Old 11-17-2023, 11:08 AM
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Wrong, it has been happening since 1999, and the Warrior and Monk who won BotB did this. If you are too lazy to put the effort in, that is your own problem. Granted, the amount of robotic execution it requires without a macro is not the most fun, but playing melee in this game is not that fun anyway. Might as well do something more than stand around autoattacking when it matters for a fight.



You don't understand how it works. You don't leave auto-attack on. Using auto-attack isn't needed at all, weapon attacks can be manually pressed.



Yes it is, you're going to get a 20% DPS increase at minimum. That can absolutely make the difference between being able to solo something or not with a character, and for the general amount of MOB's you can farm when grinding.



2+ seconds is sufficient to do the swaps but there are many times where a melee does not have full haste (aka, playing actual classic EQ before everyone has full haste gear/buffs, or any time a melee is doing something without a high level Enchanter around to buff them). It was 4+ second attack delays for Warriors in many situations in 1999, hence why the technique was born. It's boring as fuck standing around and just staring at the screen waiting for your character to do something, and the DPS increase when swapping is very noticeable.
I remember my Kunark manual mentioning ‘x’ being the offhand attack. I never got it to work. What is the trick?

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Also if you mess up at any point or misclick that would ruin the whole thing
Click detection in client is terrible, so it is not just a skill issue either.
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Old 11-16-2023, 03:31 PM
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You're misunderstanding; when I said dual wield, I mean swapping to an offhand weapon inbetween 2-hander swings.
Ah man … not this horse shit again.
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Ah man … not this horse shit again.
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