Level 60 v Level 60 - no gear

[BigPlays]

I think if a necro can get off a low lv DoT on themselves they are probably a good contender since they can lifetap for what? 500 dmg? How many HP does say a naked warrior have? 2k tops? so and enchanter probably has half that. Cleric can just chain stun though as well. It is a tough call. In the end I think the skill of the player is top priority

[Castle2.0]

If we assume perfect decision-making and perfect execution, and no armor/items so it's purely class vs class, bard wins.

Don't forget bards can LoS casters pretty easily. They just peak for LoS when the song is going to land.

[Castle2.0]

Also, there are some AE songs that would be interesting to use as well. Can start casting them outside of spell range then run in on the no-sow wiz/nec/enc to land faster than their stuns.

Depends on what patch era we are on. Charming and fearing players was fun. Even once they patched that, for a while since the bard fear was AE you could still hit players.

Level 15 AE mez got mega nerfed, but for a season it was hugely OP.

[Seducio]

What if your opponent is also a bard?

[Vivitron]

Originally Posted by Castle2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, there are some AE songs that would be interesting to use as well. Can start casting them outside of spell range then run in on the no-sow wiz/nec/enc to land faster than their stuns.

That would be interesting to see. 200 range typical offense spell - 35 claimed wiki denon's bereavement range = 165 range to run while the target casts. A puretone bard can strafe-run that in about 2.12 seconds; with practice you could probably land it and get out without eating a 2.5sec mez, but I'm doubtful many could consistently execute that without eating a 2.25 second tishan's discord (edit: listed wrong wizard spell).

I'm not sure if any stun/mez level caps apply in pvp except that you can't ae mez yourself? I know I ate an ae mez from an opponent in the arena once, but haven't tested more than that.

[Castle2.0]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What if your opponent is also a bard?

Nah. Bard wins.

Originally Posted by Vivitron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That would be interesting to see. 200 range typical offense spell - 35 claimed wiki denon's bereavement range = 165 range to run while the target casts. A puretone bard can strafe-run that in about 2.12 seconds; with practice you could probably land it and get out without eating a 2.5sec mez, but I'm doubtful many could consistently execute that without eating a 2.25 second tishan's discord (edit: listed wrong wizard spell).

I'm not sure if any stun/mez level caps apply in pvp except that you can't ae mez yourself? I know I ate an ae mez from an opponent in the arena once, but haven't tested more than that.

You don't need to get out. You land a single fear, mez, or stun that allows you to start chain mezzing. Game over.

[Seducio]

Originally Posted by Castle2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah. Bard wins.

Bard also loses that one.

[Castle2.0]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bard also loses that one.

Nah, bard always wins.

[Seducio]

Low awareness bards sing well that's for sure. Vegas is calling you my friend.

[Castle2.0]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Low awareness bards sing well that's for sure. Vegas is calling you my friend.

Nah, bards always win.