SK Race Choice

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I did a quick test using https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6sB...59GtJ&index=11 - Keerarae's video on a Cliff Golem. I put a few more AC pieces on too just to try and get as close as possible. In the video he has 395 worn AC and a bit of buff AC with his willsapper + shield. I am doing an unslowed DPS comparison over 34 seconds, since it takes him 34 seconds to slow the Golem, and I don't have willsapper.

I had 352 worn AC and a bit of buff AC. I took roughly 34 DPS from the Cliff Golem over 34 seconds, vs. Keerarae taking 30.7 DPS or so. Obviously these numbers can be very swingy over 34 seconds (especially on a Cliff Golem), but it's a start. His extra 1 level and 43 AC might have given him about 10% damage reduction, which certainly isn't bad.

It isn't going to be enough to forego fear kiting, however, if you want to save resources.

[Crede]

Trust me OP you will keep the BE gaunts, boots, and legs pretty much perma equipped if you have them all by 45. They’re that good.

Iksar plenty capable of crawling but lol @ the people who think it ain’t saving mana

[Duik]

I have the last word.

[greatdane]

Since OP specifically asked for input about solo-crawling (which presumably means dungeon-crawling), the fact remains that there are so few places inside dungeons where it's safe and practical to fear-kite that missing out on BE is a lot less of a downside. There's a select few places in dungeons where you can pull a mob to some safe area and carefully fear-kite it, but I wouldn't call that dungeon-crawling. If you want to actually move through a dungeon, killing as you go, fear-kiting is virtually impossible except for a tiny selection of places like certain portions of Howling Stones. In almost all places, you'll either train yourself or the mobs will get feared into water and shit like that.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by greatdane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since OP specifically asked for input about solo-crawling (which presumably means dungeon-crawling), the fact remains that there are so few places inside dungeons where it's safe and practical to fear-kite that missing out on BE is a lot less of a downside. There's a select few places in dungeons where you can pull a mob to some safe area and carefully fear-kite it, but I wouldn't call that dungeon-crawling. If you want to actually move through a dungeon, killing as you go, fear-kiting is virtually impossible except for a tiny selection of places like certain portions of Howling Stones. In almost all places, you'll either train yourself or the mobs will get feared into water and shit like that.

I found fear kiting to work exceptionally well, especially with slam. I was doing it in HS, hole, KC, etc. It became a lot of fun finding different spots, and once I got in a nice groove I could go for a long period of time without needing a break. I used most of my mana on dooming darkness as in many cases the engulfing snare from the BE click wasn't good enough. But it was really good at like 40% when dooming wore off and I knew the mob was about to stop soon, and also effective for splitting a mobs as engulfing is enough to stop them in their tracks after you FD. You don't specifically need space initially to fear kite either, you can create space by killing a few mobs first and knowing their timer. There is nothing more efficient than fear kiting from a mitigation perspective which is huge for a class like SK which have very limited ways of efficient healing, they don't even get 210 bind wound whereas a pally does(weird). It workedreally great against casters too dropping a fear so they could never land cheal or big nukes whereas even a class like a monk would struggle since push interrupt isn't really viable anymore.

As already mentioned BE isn't necessary, but it's an advantage. And it isn't just limited to fear kiting, as you can use the greaves for a free 3 second FD with no recast time.

[ya.dingus]

Human SK if you're the real chad.

Troll just if you're like, eh, i want regen.

[Pint]

Anyone have a standard 60 knight 1200-1250ac? That they want to parse with wed or Thurs night?

[greatdane]

Nobody's gonna indulge you when you talk up your silly version of reality as some sort of universally applicable truth, while everyone who knows the game is aware that it doesn't really apply. Under no conceivable circumstances is fear-kiting inside dungeons "excellent" or universally viable, but in your odd desperation to be a contrarian to every opinion anybody ever posts, you have managed to concoct a view that suggests it is. Why, after presenting such a ridiculous statement, should anyone volunteer their time to satisfy any other equally silly notions you might have? Odds are that if the results conflict with what you had decided ahead of time, you'll invent some imaginary counter-argument for that as well.

Go to any dungeon. Are people fear-kiting in it? No? Well, how about that. It's because aside from a select few places where it might be doable, it is generally suicide. For that reason, since OP asked specifically about dungeon-crawling, it is wildly dishonest and misleading to suggest that picking iksar is a huge disadvantage due to the unavailability of BE gloves+boots. Now, realistically, he won't spend his whole life soloing in dungeons; but that is nevertheless the context that he asked about. Your statement is patently invalid in that context. There are other reasons why iksar is a sub-optimal choice, but fear-kiting inside dungeons is not one of them. Stop pretend it is. The tryhard bullshit on this forum is bad enough as it is.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by greatdane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody's gonna indulge you when you talk up your silly version of reality as some sort of universally applicable truth, while everyone who knows the game is aware that it doesn't really apply. Under no conceivable circumstances is fear-kiting inside dungeons "excellent" or universally viable, but in your odd desperation to be a contrarian to every opinion anybody ever posts, you have managed to concoct a view that suggests it is. Why, after presenting such a ridiculous statement, should anyone volunteer their time to satisfy any other equally silly notions you might have? Odds are that if the results conflict with what you had decided ahead of time, you'll invent some imaginary argumen for that as well.

Go to any dungeon. Are people fear-kiting in it? No? Well, how about that. It's because aside from a select few places where it might be doable, it is generally suicide. For that reason, since OP asked specifically about dungeon-crawling, it is wildly dishonest and misleading to suggest that picking iksar is a huge disadvantage due to the unavailability of BE gloves+boots. Now, realistically, he won't spend his whole life soloing in dungeons; but that is nevertheless the context that he asked about. Your statement is patently invalid in that context.

Please name a place where an SK can solo and where you cannot fear kite. Then we can test it. Do you have anything to back up your argument besides nonsense?

[greatdane]

Just about anywhere in any dungeon. How are you gonna fear kite anywhere that there isn't like fifty yards of no mobs inside a fucking dungeon? Come on. Stop being silly. We've all been to every dungeon. You couldnt even kill the first mob in Sebilis via fear-kiting, and the same goes for just about any section of every dungeon in this game. Is everyone here just full of shit? Are you trying to look badass by boasting?

There's a select few isolated places in dungeons where you can fear-kite without immediately pulling adds. Since OP was specifically asking about dunegon-crawling, all your idiotic nonsense is inapplicable to his question.