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Old 01-08-2025, 01:30 PM
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Dual wield is a large damage boost for npcs by those levels, so those guards are probably some of the most lopsided in favor of wizards over monks (shields give them dual wield).
At that level, what options are there though? Kunark and Velious mobs hit harder and/or have inflated HP pools. SolB mobs drop nothing of note. Kaladim guards have shields too, felwithe guards heal, Paineel guards are too low level, Freeport guards afaik green out too / and or dual wield, etc.

That's just what happens at 50 or so. Mobs start scaling more than players and that's why mages also struggle. Casters that can negate damage using CC and in particular classes that can charm can bypass this issue, mostly anyway.
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Old 01-08-2025, 04:07 PM
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At that level, what options are there though? Kunark and Velious mobs hit harder and/or have inflated HP pools. SolB mobs drop nothing of note. Kaladim guards have shields too, felwithe guards heal, Paineel guards are too low level, Freeport guards afaik green out too / and or dual wield, etc.

That's just what happens at 50 or so. Mobs start scaling more than players and that's why mages also struggle. Casters that can negate damage using CC and in particular classes that can charm can bypass this issue, mostly anyway.
TBH I'm not sure at that level range. Some of CoM might be pretty good. In my experience Kunark mobs mostly follow the default max hit/hp formulas from classic, and some of Velious do too although I agree many mobs have an increased max hit there -- the velious wiki max hit values seem to sometimes be notably higher and I've often heard your same comment made, so maybe it was worse when p99 first implemented the expansions.
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Old 01-08-2025, 08:21 AM
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monk can solo in any dungeon. wizard cannot. end of discussion. as someone else said theres like 2 options for wizards after level 44. so if theyre completely camped - sorry. groups dont want wizards.

the exp bonus in dungeons is better than outdoor zones. imagine trying to get to 60 on suits in wakening lands with a 85 ZEM.

or get to 60 in the hole with its 130 ZEM, or howling stones with 110 ZEM.
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Old 01-08-2025, 11:49 AM
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monk can solo in any dungeon. wizard cannot. end of discussion. as someone else said theres like 2 options for wizards after level 44. so if theyre completely camped - sorry. groups dont want wizards.

the exp bonus in dungeons is better than outdoor zones. imagine trying to get to 60 on suits in wakening lands with a 85 ZEM.

or get to 60 in the hole with its 130 ZEM, or howling stones with 110 ZEM.
Wizards can solo XP in dungeons, quadding is just better. You also underestimate the XP you get quadding, not to mention the AFK-time which translates to getting shit done at home or work.

None of this is what I'm talking about though. I'm saying that my experience of monk, despite heavily twinked, is not that it's some powerhouse. That seems to happen at 60 with an abundance of raid loot (most of which is 2-3 x the price of gear of other classes) and in which case an enchanter shaman or necro will still shit on you. Wizard is literally the weakest caster and by comparison I still feel weak as a monk.

You can disagree or agree, at this point I quite frankly don't care. For anyone else starting a monk my message is thus - it ain't all that but if you enjoy the mechanics of monk it's a fun class!
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Old 01-08-2025, 09:42 PM
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I have a 51 monk fungi/t-staff going. Using RBB + eyepatch of plunder for haste. Just moved from Feer/Oasis specs to killing McMarin brothers in Everfrost. I can keep two brothers down pretty smooth. Also camped the hallway Ice Giant for a bit the night. I’d say that’s pretty unusual.
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Old 02-19-2025, 05:46 PM
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The howling stones stuff is intriguing, but I am about 500K short of a holgresh bead...Not sure how many probes I'd need to stock up on for a HS run. Oh and I gotta get the key FUCK.
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Oh and I gotta get the key FUCK.
The key is easy, just two mobs that are both trivial at by the time you're doing HS.

Usually you can just walk right up and kill the LOIO one, but if not it's a max two hour wait. And while Xalgoz (in Kaesora) is usually camped ... it's almost always by a staff farmer (who will let you loot the key for free).

The hardest part of the whole thing IMHO is just getting through Kaesora, but with Invis/IVU pots even that isn't so bad.
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Old 02-25-2025, 03:40 PM
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The key is easy, just two mobs that are both trivial at by the time you're doing HS.

Usually you can just walk right up and kill the LOIO one, but if not it's a max two hour wait. And while Xalgoz (in Kaesora) is usually camped ... it's almost always by a staff farmer (who will let you loot the key for free).

The hardest part of the whole thing IMHO is just getting through Kaesora, but with Invis/IVU pots even that isn't so bad.
Yeah and as a monk pretty easy to flop/safefall down.
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Old 02-25-2025, 02:50 PM
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The howling stones stuff is intriguing, but I am about 500K short of a holgresh bead...Not sure how many probes I'd need to stock up on for a HS run. Oh and I gotta get the key FUCK.
not worth imo

LDCs are fantastic with added spice dealing with stone spider (can absolutely be done with your gear)

gypsy nearby too
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not worth imo

LDCs are fantastic with added spice dealing with stone spider (can absolutely be done with your gear)

gypsy nearby too
Did that camp to death, I am over solb lol.
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