Which race is better for Paladin: Dwarf or Half Elf?

[Snaggles]

Yea Ennewi. I recall that thread and how returns did diminish with higher CHA. Not to say a crit resist in seb is exactly low impact but if true the results from 65 to 150 is massive.

If I was worried about a solo adventure I’d get the basic items and not sweat the rest. I carry them all including a near full set of Ragefire armor (no BP) and some non-visual pieces but just never click that much:

Glamour proc sword: 32
Overseer signet x2: 16
Crude stein: 15
Jester crown: 30
Total: 93

That puts a dwarf at 148 and most races much higher. Glamour scales with level but even at 26 when the Luminary sword procs you would get 29 so a total of 145.

[Gustoo]

It’s a tough call I gotta say.

For a new server high elf is a shitty road you’re gunna be weak for the entire best era

Long term a high elf stats are gunna be better

But don’t play a race you hate the looks of. Human is a good
Middle ground I guess you get to be a respectable citizen but also OK stats. Blind sucks with the new weird darkness

[Bockscar]

It really sucks to play human or erudite now with the darkness. There are almost no infravision or ultravision items that you actually want to wear. I guess erudites have that shield, but whatever. It sucks ass all the way up until you get some Velious endgame item that just happens to have it as a worn effect, and there aren't even that many of those. Prior to that, you pretty much have to wear some really bad item just so you can see. It's horrible when you don't have it built into an item that you would wear anyway regardless. And no, items with the glow effect are not the same and don't do enough.

[sajbert]

Originally Posted by Bockscar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It really sucks to play human or erudite now with the darkness. There are almost no infravision or ultravision items that you actually want to wear. I guess erudites have that shield, but whatever. It sucks ass all the way up until you get some Velious endgame item that just happens to have it as a worn effect, and there aren't even that many of those. Prior to that, you pretty much have to wear some really bad item just so you can see. It's horrible when you don't have it built into an item that you would wear anyway regardless. And no, items with the glow effect are not the same and don't do enough.

Myep. That’s why you roll paladin on Green 2.0 and get a Guise and be the man your girlfriend wants you to be. You’ll still technically have blue balls though, unless you went female paladin which is peak fashion until velious with dark elf cone helmets.

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by Bockscar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It really sucks to play human or erudite now with the darkness. There are almost no infravision or ultravision items that you actually want to wear. I guess erudites have that shield, but whatever. It sucks ass all the way up until you get some Velious endgame item that just happens to have it as a worn effect, and there aren't even that many of those. Prior to that, you pretty much have to wear some really bad item just so you can see. It's horrible when you don't have it built into an item that you would wear anyway regardless. And no, items with the glow effect are not the same and don't do enough.

Agreed. It’s good that the act of being a human erudite and barbarian is really punished now, which is similar to the way it was on live.

But it’s not correct because the way the dynamic lighting works is totally effed up and not classic at all. The level of total unplayability at night time without some vision enhancement item or spell is a lot worse than live. On live darkness was meaningfully dark for all races, and really hindering to human and erudite and barb. The dark elf vision was a meaningful racial trait.

The downsides of dynamic lighting don’t warrant the change. Might as well just make erudites humans and barbs not playable and let everyone else have a game that works right

[Snaggles]

I would situationally use a Stalwart Seas shield or swap in a Glowing Stone Band if I got turned around until I got a Crown of Hatred. The shield is in the bank for CR’s.

Eyepatch of The Shadows is decent. Less so if you are stam capped but it’s certainly tolerable for most folks.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would situationally use a Stalwart Seas shield or swap in a Glowing Stone Band if I got turned around until I got a Crown of Hatred. The shield is in the bank for CR’s.

Eyepatch of The Shadows is decent. Less so if you are stam capped but it’s certainly tolerable for most folks.

I wear the lord bob ring, stats aint that bad, no blindness. C u in velious.

[bobjonesp99]

On a fresh server, dwarf is BIS. If you are going to play casually, dwarf is BIS. If its an established server, you are twinking, and plan to get high end raid gear, high elf is BIS.

all that said, its a 20+ y/o elf sim, play what sounds fun to you. if you go hardcore it wont really matter in the end anyways. if you dont go hardcore, does it really matter anyways?

[Crede]

Yea I know people even in velious that raided high elf and wished they were dwarf for the extra stamina.

People talk about bis velious like it’s nothing. Pretty much 99.9% of people will never get there, starting stats differences are no joke in a game of inches.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea I know people even in velious that raided high elf and wished they were dwarf for the extra stamina.

People talk about bis velious like it’s nothing. Pretty much 99.9% of people will never get there, starting stats differences are no joke in a game of inches.

Yea as human I just barely cap now with putting in stam and my gear is pretty good.