Which race is better for Paladin: Dwarf or Half Elf?

[Pint]

You'll use calm all the time but still go agi and wis

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Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You'll use calm all the time but still go agi and wis

Calm all the time but rare occasion youll need 20 extra wis/agi.

Sounds like a no brainer, the community has voted OP - Dwarf with 20 into CHA - Enjoy that cultural armor and lookin like a boss. Once you obtain epic you'll never even think about the nature's defender.

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Originally Posted by Uza Khan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks guys for the replies and feedback. Appreciate it.

I have seen that for Dwarves, they are recommended to always put at least 5 into AGI before doing anything else, and that the rest could/should go CHA or WIS. I've seen plenty of posts talking about the min/max value is in CHA or WIS given that so much gear is STR/STA based.

Toxigen mentioned going full CHA as well. Seeing as how Dwarves are so abyssmally low in CHA, doesn't it make the most sense in this game to put the other 15 there? Or even all 20 for that matter?

Do you ever see Dwarven Paladins soloing using Lull? It seems like a character's level is the most important consideration when doing that, but like Swish said, you have to properly equip yourself.

I don't think I could make a mistake either way where I put the rest....it is just 15 points after all....but you guys have been around way longer and have seen much more than I have, and so your experiences & observed opinions do carry weight.

Thanks.

I’d go all 20 into cha. Can raise agi with items like barbed dragonscale Pauldrons. Can also camp stuff like the cat o nine tails for agi proc. You will def cast lull/calm/paci/dw arms if you plan to solo/small group so it’s definitely a thing. You can stack cha items and luminary two handed sword proc for more cha, but never hurts to have more of it innately.

[Trelaboon]

I’d definitely put the 5 points into agility and then. I personally would put the rest into wisdom as a dwarf, as charisma is an easy stat to bump for the purposes of lulling and is only really beneficial when soloing. I solo a lot on mine so the charisma is worth it, but I’d rather have mana over the solo help later on.

To answer the question, Dwarf is better in nearly every single metric. The only benefit to the half elf is not having to put five points into agility, but even with that considered, your stats will be better on the dwarf.

[magnetaress]

High elf. Max wisdom.


Or human. Max dex.

[Ripqozko]

Go all sta and appreciate needing less pure sta items at 60

[Petes meat]

With a few cheap/easy to acquire items like the stein mentioned earlier and

https://wiki.project1999.com/Kobold_Jester%27s_Crown

https://wiki.project1999.com/Luminary_Two_Handed_Sword

CHA is pretty easy to get boosted. I wouldn't let cha be a deciding factor on race choice. I vote for dwarf.

[Snaggles]

Overseer rings are nice too.

Really it just depends on how you play. Lulling full rooms in lower guk? I would pack some CHA gear to cut down on the panic moments. Without Enstill root camping is very difficult (30 sec or so on “Root” for max duration).

Splitting two spawns in like HK, Oggok or Grobb? The zone is so close.

I’d prob go dwarf. Cultural armor, stamina. Would set you up really good casual or for raiding. Maybe Wisdom if going to be an extreme raider. Or CHA if a solo adventurer.

Or just pick any race you want. If you like HE more every time you see one you will be a little jealous. Or whatever that first choice was. You have to stare at the character a lot…

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Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Overseer rings are nice too.

Really it just depends on how you play. Lulling full rooms in lower guk? I would pack some CHA gear to cut down on the panic moments. Without Enstill root camping is very difficult (30 sec or so on “Root” for max duration).

Splitting two spawns in like HK, Oggok or Grobb? The zone is so close.

I’d prob go dwarf. Cultural armor, stamina. Would set you up really good casual or for raiding. Maybe Wisdom if going to be an extreme raider. Or CHA if a solo adventurer.

Or just pick any race you want. If you like HE more every time you see one you will be a little jealous. Or whatever that first choice was. You have to stare at the character a lot…

Yes, those rings are great. I'd keep em equipped pretty much 24/7 on pally. Nice ac, dex, and resists too to complement the cultural armor MR & dwarf natty MR.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Overseer%27s_Signet

[Keebz]

Do you want to look like a Half Elf or a Dwarf? Both are fine options.

As for the 5 AGI, there's an AC penalty if you're under 75 AGI. Dwarves start with 70. You can put 5 starting points into AGI, or you can just get 5 AGI from your gear somewhere.

Personally I'd do Half Elf, but the barrel roll is pretty fucking cool, ngl.