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Old 05-24-2023, 09:40 AM
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Dont think so

But I've laid out the Ukraine situation for ya plain as day
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Old 05-24-2023, 10:12 AM
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Can't change facts, only pretend

Lots of pretending and hoaxing around these parts
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Old 05-24-2023, 12:31 PM
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Can't change facts, only pretend

Lots of pretending and hoaxing around these parts
I'm curious: is your stance that Russia was justified to invade Ukraine because they began following a NATO membership action plan in 2008?

Why is that legally, morally, or geopolitically justified? I honestly want to know why you think that.
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Old 05-24-2023, 01:18 PM
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I'm curious: is your stance that Russia was justified to invade Ukraine because they began following a NATO membership action plan in 2008?
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I'm curious: is your stance that Russia was justified to invade Ukraine because they began following a NATO membership action plan in 2008?

Why is that legally, morally, or geopolitically justified? I honestly want to know why you think that.
NATO building secret bio labs and stock piling weapons on their doorstep was a huge no no

They were told so and agreed to this

Then started doing it, lied and got caught

Mostly in the name of grabbing our tax dollars to enrich themselves and get hundreds of thousands of ppl killed


You know they lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq before to do this very same thing? But, that's another "Mueller Report" to look into [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 05-24-2023, 11:28 PM
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NATO building secret bio labs and stock piling weapons on their doorstep was a huge no no

They were told so and agreed to this

Then started doing it, lied and got caught

Mostly in the name of grabbing our tax dollars to enrich themselves and get hundreds of thousands of ppl killed


You know they lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq before to do this very same thing? But, that's another "Mueller Report" to look into [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Did you know quest diagnostics is a bio lab? It’s where they check your lithium levels to adjust your dose, so you should’ve heard of if
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Old 05-25-2023, 01:08 PM
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NATO building secret bio labs and stock piling weapons on their doorstep was a huge no no

They were told so and agreed to this

Then started doing it, lied and got caught

Mostly in the name of grabbing our tax dollars to enrich themselves and get hundreds of thousands of ppl killed


You know they lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq before to do this very same thing? But, that's another "Mueller Report" to look into [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Let's assume the biolab thing was true (it's not). How does that morally justify the invasion? Russia isn't Ukraine's dad. Russia agreed to permanently respect Ukraine's sovereignty in exchange for nuclear disarmament. Russia violated this in 2014 when it took Crimea.

Why does Russia get to tell Ukraine what to do and invade it if they don't. So, if I get your argument, if Ukraine told Russia to nuclear disarm, and Russia didn't, Ukraine would be perfectly justified to invade Russia in the same manner?

Again, I'm asking you to morally, ethically, and geopolitically justify this. You haven't done that yet.

PS: Since you brought it up, Iraq was a travesty and Bush is a war criminal. Don't try whataboutism again, please.
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Old 05-25-2023, 03:46 PM
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Let's assume the biolab thing was true (it's not). How does that morally justify the invasion? Russia isn't Ukraine's dad. Russia agreed to permanently respect Ukraine's sovereignty in exchange for nuclear disarmament. Russia violated this in 2014 when it took Crimea.

Why does Russia get to tell Ukraine what to do and invade it if they don't. So, if I get your argument, if Ukraine told Russia to nuclear disarm, and Russia didn't, Ukraine would be perfectly justified to invade Russia in the same manner?

Again, I'm asking you to morally, ethically, and geopolitically justify this. You haven't done that yet.

PS: Since you brought it up, Iraq was a travesty and Bush is a war criminal. Don't try whataboutism again, please.
It's post hoc but just for fun - WMDs constitute jus ad bellum. Or so I've been told.

Bioweapons are WMDs.
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Old 05-24-2023, 10:18 AM
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Perfect way to put it tbh
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Old 05-24-2023, 03:53 PM
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Without a hint of irony over Ukraine, Putin rages against countries that meddle in other states

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Russian President Vladimir Putin slammed countries that he said were trying to “impose their dominance” and rules on others.

Putin said Wednesday that those that do were destabilizing the world and “completely ignoring the sovereignty, national interests, traditions of other states.”

Russia invaded Ukraine 15 months ago in what is widely seen as the most egregious transgression of national sovereignty in Europe in years.
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