TR crys to GMS gets Donals BP

[Zereh]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This has been discussed in other threads, as well as in game and in irc. The majority of the server would like to see that rule removed. I've already said what needs to take place for that to happen, and where it needs to be handled.

If the rule isn't applicable to the situation then why was it used?

[Anger]

Poopsocking is classic. You want loot? Put in the time to sit on the spawn point. Not dedicated enough to put forth the hours needed to maintain your sock? You lose it.

People seem to be forgetting that this is how Kunark was on live. No 15-man bullshit.

Yo Hasbinbad. 8 pages and still no post? Sticking your foot in your mouth for that walloftext you posted last week?

GM favoritism at its best again. TMO finally starts making some headway and oh wait, rules change again. Can't have them getting too many Trak teeth.

It really blows my mind how this continues to happen and when anyone even mentions the slightest bit of favoritism, it's dismissed as pithy QQ'ing.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by Anger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Poopsocking is classic. You want loot? Put in the time to sit on the spawn point. Not dedicated enough to put forth the hours needed to maintain your sock? You lose it.

People seem to be forgetting that this is how Kunark was on live. No 15-man bullshit.

Yo Hasbinbad. 8 pages and still no post? Sticking your foot in your mouth for that walloftext you posted last week?

GM favoritism at its best again. TMO finally starts making some headway and oh wait, rules change again. Can't have them getting too many Trak teeth.

It really blows my mind how this continues to happen and when anyone even mentions the slightest bit of favoritism, it's dismissed as pithy QQ'ing.

How was there a rule change?

[Anger]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How was there a rule change?

Obvious troll is obvious.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by Anger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Obvious troll is obvious.

Dead serious, refer to Uthgaard's most recent post. Where was there a rule change? Here's what happened:

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Don't bitch if the rules your guild dominated with last summer suddenly work against you.

[Arkanjil]

This is an entertaining thread!

[Paumad]

About Sev.Just to clarify, from my puller point of view. Also, don't DT bards pretty please, its already messy enough as it is.

The pull took so long and got reseted because you guys peeled it off me TWICE and I had to go back in to get it back after me, then decided to take the long run to avoid more vultures (which I guess was a bad idea now, because it opened the door to more bs). This is when Amelinda asked me why I was not running straight for camp and sent it back to its spawn point.
Rest is history, we got FTE again and you guys killed it.

I was not kiting it and you guys know it. Either I was the initial puller or your first puller died and I took it from there (zonewide shout from him, someone definetly died), and you then were the ones "fuckin with someone's pull" to quote you, making me look like I was stalling when in fact I was doing my damn best to pull it.

But hey, that's not really the point and I must be biased, because in that convo log, it sure doesn't seem it happened like that.

Looking forward to less BS, from either side. Grats on the loots.

[Loly Taa]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This has been discussed in other threads, as well as in game and in irc. The majority of the server would like to see that rule removed. I've already said what needs to take place for that to happen, and where it needs to be handled.

Nothing suggested (the logs are posted) involved a rotation. The goal aimed for was fair FTE competition.

I just want to preface this with, "you know I <3 you"

but, fair, FTE competition is exactly what transpired. The first 4 on aggro list were TMO, largely because we don't regard our carpal tunnel health very much.

That Trak kill was nothing but fair FTE competition, the Sev kill was nothing but fair FTE competition, but TR wanted loots from both- even though they had no legit claim to them under FTE.

Regardless, I'm glad this is over. I'm sorry to have wasted your time man.

but I can assure you, we're not the ones crying about 15 this- We were completely happy with FTE. If it comes down to us paying attention more then so be it. If it were up to me we'd never bother you guys for anything other than, who was FTE?

I say, we make a player usable command to see who was FTE, and then we can decide amongst ourselves who was right and wrong.

#stopthebitching Trakanon
(Show first five on aggro list)

Usable by anyone would be pimptacular.

[Uthgaard]

Originally Posted by Zereh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the rule isn't applicable to the situation then why was it used?

No one ever said it wasn't applicable. It is still a valid rule. The discussion was about the two guilds agreeing to fairly compete solely based on FTE, and not poopsocking in the future. Refer to Jeremy's thread in server chat for the discussion on making a case for changing the rule.

[Zereh]

You honestly think TR's "superior skillset" is enough to kill Trak with 15 people?

I'm not trying to incite a riot or call you out. But damn. They used part of the rule to their advantage (the body count) but totally glossed over the fact that that number is clearly not sufficient to kill the mob they were waiting for.

Anyway, I'm off for the night. =) Enjoy! I'm off to the bookstore so I have something entertaining to occupy my time for the next shitstorm in Trak's lair. See y'all on Thursday!