Warriors. Who tanks with a 2h?

[Ripqozko]

So scepter clicks and afk?

[Jimjam]

Tangentially, should aggro not be 2DMG+Damage Bonus? I swear it was on live at some point. Maybe it got changed with one of the revamps to let aggro keep up with boost to spells??

[Troxx]

Using the above calculations strictly assuming 255 dex, level 60 warrior, and 100% haste:

FR =5066 hate/min
2h epic = 5077 hate/min
Infestation/red = hate/min
Trident/red = 5486 hate/min
WS/red = 5507 hate/min
Trident/nev = 5798 hate/min
Feverblade/nev = 5867 hate/min
Feverblade + barbed scale whip = 5415 hate/min

My guess is that hate/swing may be off for the reasons Jimjam says above. I could have sworn it was 2x dmg+ dmg bonus

[Jimjam]

According to this 2003 steel warrior thread the off hand shouldn't be anywhere near as good aggro as primary (on a per swing basis)
https://web.archive.org/web/20110104...ead.php?t=3789

According to this a swing from an 8/20 weapon in off hand is worth less than half of an 8/20 swing from primary... that suggests dmg+db we have here for primary is correct, but dmg+db for offhand is erronious.... at least at 2003 era!

Perhaps the 2xdmg+ bonus is me misremembering or remembering a different era. I may have been thinking of the steamfont / meldrath expansion time. Certainly 2003 era posts don't support 2xdmg+db

[Troxx]

Nah I remember it being the same Jimjam, you’re not misremembering. It looks like Detoxx did some very comprehensive testing so the numbers are most likely correct for project 1999.

DB threat being applied to offhand is definitely not as it should be. It was never like that on live. It should be patched out.

Red epic offhand is producing 654 more threat than it should.
Nevs at 10/15 is generating about a thousand more threat than it should.

[Allishia]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah I remember it being the same Jimjam, you’re not misremembering. It looks like Detoxx did some very comprehensive testing so the numbers are most likely correct for project 1999.

DB threat being applied to offhand is definitely not as it should be. It was never like that on live. It should be patched out.

Red epic offhand is producing 654 more threat than it should.
Nevs at 10/15 is generating about a thousand more threat than it should.

Y'all better not get my weapons nerfed or I'll hurt you!

[mycoolrausch]

it would be very p99 to nerf the aggro of an already nerfed class while the garbage blade of carnage sits there mere days out of timeline from being the only good warrior weapon in velious

[Allishia]

Originally Posted by mycoolrausch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it would be very p99 to nerf the aggro of an already nerfed class while the garbage blade of carnage sits there mere days out of timeline from being the only good warrior weapon in velious

Lmao, omg I wish they would put boc in at the 15/20 stats with eb proc, that would be so good. Please custom content that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Allishia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Y'all better not get my weapons nerfed or I'll hurt you!

The change wouldn’t necessarily be a nerf. Every other dual wielding class would start generating less threat as well. Holding aggro off rogues would actually get easier.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The change wouldn’t necessarily be a nerf. Every other dual wielding class would start generating less threat as well. Holding aggro off rogues would actually get easier.

Thanks DSM