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Old 06-29-2023, 11:39 AM
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Do you think I'm obsessed with a class to such a degree that I'm going to place them in a situation where they're made redundant and weak, and then call them an excellent class? Even though the vast majority of us in this thread proclaimed them to be the 2nd most powerful class in the game, and where even I stated they surpassed Enchanter with enough gear and Puppet Strings.

Come now, DSM. I call your bluff. The power of the lie has its limits. It has worn thin by now. You're just a coward with too frail of an ego to admit something so inconsequential it baffles me.

People fight feverishly over religion and politics. People fight to survive and to be recognised and cherished. What are you fighting over so zealously about?

About an innocuous discussion about a composition in a very old game that is easy to figure out. This is why you've dragged a thread out so long despite nearly everyone disagreeing with you? You couldn't be more pathetic if you tried...

Edit: Oh, yes. I am very angry with you. Why? Does pointing that out make you look less pathetic?
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Old 06-29-2023, 11:43 AM
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Do you think I'm obsessed with a class to such a degree that I'm going to place them in a situation where they're made redundant and weak, and then call them an excellent class? Even though the vast majority of us in this thread proclaimed them to be the 2nd most powerful class in the game, and where even I stated they surpassed Enchanter with enough gear and Puppet Strings.

Come now, DSM. I call your bluff. The power of the lie has its limits. It has worn thin by now. You're just a coward with too frail of an ego to admit something so inconsequential it baffles me.

People fight feverishly over religion and politics. People fight to survive and to be recognised and cherished. What are you fighting over so zealously about?

About an innocuous discussion about a composition in a very old game that is easy to figure out. This is why you've dragged a thread out so long despite nearly everyone disagreeing with you? You couldn't be more pathetic if you tried...
Thank you for proving my point yet again.

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Old 06-29-2023, 11:46 AM
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Notice how you didn't try to deconstruct a single thing I said?

Because you know I'm right about you.

P.S Stop stealth editing. It makes you look even more manipulative than you already are.
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Old 06-29-2023, 11:50 AM
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Notice how you didn't try to deconstruct a single thing I said?

Because you know I'm right about you.
You aren't saying anything of value. That is why I don't need to deconstruct it.

If you think I am wrong, please provide evidence for your claims.

Providing sufficient evidence to back up your claim will convince everybody I am wrong, even if you think I won't admit it. So far you don't have any evidence for that assumption, since I have admitted to being wrong plenty of times on this forum already.

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P.S Stop stealth editing. It makes you look even more manipulative than you already are.
You are always so negative. I edit my posts because people here typically seem to misread what I say. I need to try and be as clear as possible.
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Old 06-29-2023, 11:51 AM
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Why are you here, then?

There's no purpose for you being here now than to protect your fragile ego.

Am I wrong?
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Old 06-29-2023, 11:54 AM
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Why are you here, then?

There's no purpose for you being here now than to protect your fragile ego.

Am I wrong?
You should be asking yourself this question. If you really thought I was wrong, you would have provided evidence long ago to prove it.

Instead, you keep posting the same psychoanalytic nonsense in an attempt to undermine the argument because you have no evidence.
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Old 06-29-2023, 12:01 PM
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You should be asking yourself this question. If you really thought I was wrong, you would have provided evidence long ago to prove it.

Instead, you keep posting the same psychoanalytic nonsense in an attempt to undermine the argument because you have no evidence.
Troxx provided real mage group dps data.

The ball has always been in your court. You never provided anything similar other than a single mob solo video which has nothing to do with anything relevant/requested.

So until that point, nobody needs to provide you with evidence. The more you continue to not provide this, the less credible you become.

I am still willing to provide my enchanter to test this. So as soon as you want to set this up, let me know.
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Old 06-29-2023, 12:03 PM
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Troxx provided real mage group dps data.

The ball has always been in your court. You never provided anything similar other than a single mob solo video which has nothing to do with anything relevant/requested.

So until that point, nobody needs to provide you with evidence. The more you continue to not provide this, the less credible you become.
I provided better evidence than he did, video evidence with logs. He posted a screenshot that he admits was incorrect.

Allishia provided real evidence via logs with the Epic Pet, and I used that evidence later on in the discussion.

It is up to Troxx to prove his theory that solo DPS cannot translate to group DPS, for example. He is making that claim, not me.

If you understood how the game works, you would know this is nonsense. Grouping doesn't change a mob's stats. If you can do 50 DPS to it solo, you can do 50 DPS to it grouped.

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I knew you were going to say that. But you're missing the point, which you can't seem to address:

Why are you still here if we're all wrong?

Forget the appeal to the majority fallacy. Answer the question. I'm not arguing that more people = truth here.
I am here to show people that your argument is not based on facts, and therefore you shouldn't assume it to be true. Why are you here?
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Old 06-29-2023, 12:11 PM
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I provided better evidence than he did, video evidence with logs. He posted a screenshot that he admits was incorrect.

Allishia provided real evidence via logs with the Epic Pet, and I used that evidence later on in the discussion.

It is up to Troxx to prove his theory that solo DPS cannot translate to group DPS, for example. He is making that claim, not me.

If you understood how the game works, you would know this is nonsense. Grouping doesn't change a mob's stats. If you can do 50 DPS to it solo, you can do 50 DPS to it grouped.



I am here to show people that your argument is not based on facts, and therefore you shouldn't assume it to be true. Why are you here?
If you understood how the game worked, you would know that solo dps does not always translate to group dps. When soloing you are guaranteed your epic will hit full duration. You cannot guarantee this in a group.

So unfortunately, all your evidence is invalid, and we will continue to wait for real evidence by you.
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Old 06-29-2023, 12:36 PM
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I provided better evidence than he did, video evidence with logs. He posted a screenshot that he admits was incorrect.
The evidence you provided was not relevant evidence because the environment the captured/collected data came from was not relevant to the discussion. This is why your evidence was, and has been, and remains, irrelevant. This was already explained to you multiple times by multiple posters months ago.

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It is up to Troxx to prove his theory that solo DPS cannot translate to group DPS, for example. He is making that claim, not me.

If you understood how the game works, you would know this is nonsense. Grouping doesn't change a mob's stats. If you can do 50 DPS to it solo, you can do 50 DPS to it grouped.
I simply present the following irrefutable evidence - which cannot be refuted:

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in a group setting, there are too many variables out of your control that can skew the data

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Once you add in outside variables, that changes the DPS equation NOT because of what the class can do, but because of what other players are doing.
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