Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Gloomlord]

But it's worthless, redundant utility. We've explained this time and time again, and he refuses to listen.

10+ people all "freak out" and unite against this man, and you don't think that's alarming?

Is your self-righteousness really necessary here? Come on...

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But it's worthless, redundant utility. We've explained this time and time again, and he refuses to listen.

10+ people all "freak out" and unite against this man, and you don't think that's alarming?

Is your self-righteousness really necessary here? Come on...

I think it is alarming that 10+ people are making an effort to get some stranger who, from what I understand, you only interact with over these forums, to admit they're wrong about a fictitious scenario of min-max geared level 60's or something, that, if you go and look, you could've all avoided from the get-go by ignoring them.

You don't actually have to provoke this person and drag this out, it's real easy to be like "I disagree" and move on.

Why do you care this much about this dudes opinion?

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it is alarming that 10+ people are making an effort to get some stranger who, from what I understand, you only interact with over these forums, to admit they're wrong about a fictitious scenario of min-max geared level 60's or something, that, if you go and look, you could've all avoided from the get-go by ignoring them.

You don't actually have to provoke this person and drag this out, it's real easy to be like "I disagree" and move on.

Why do you care this much about this dudes opinion?

Welcome VQ guildy, do you get dkp for this?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Welcome VQ guildy, do you get dkp for this?

Mega cringe. This is just sad.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Welcome VQ guildy, do you get dkp for this?

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[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it is alarming that 10+ people are making an effort to get some stranger who, from what I understand, you only interact with over these forums, to admit they're wrong about a fictitious scenario of min-max geared level 60's or something, that, if you go and look, you could've all avoided from the get-go by ignoring them.

You don't actually have to provoke this person and drag this out, it's real easy to be like "I disagree" and move on.

Why do you care this much about this dudes opinion?

Because he isn't stating it as opinion. He's stating an opinion as fact when the actual facts are in direct opposition. If he just came here and said "I know mage is prolly the better choice from a min/max perspective but I personally prefer having an extra healer just in case someone sucks or messes up" then this thread would've been over in like 2-5 pages. He's perfectly entitled to that opinion. I personally have a very hard time letting it go when someone is so obviously blatantly wrong about something and they act like such a gigantic stubborn piece of shit about how right they are. He might legitimately have some mental issues IRL in which case I might feel a little bad for ragging on him so much. In my defense I have no way to actually know that short of him telling us. So until that point I'm just treating him as the stubborn illogical piece of shit that he's broadcasting himself as.

In the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter but people being this blatantly stupid and obtuse gets under my skin. I admit to having a hard time letting it go. Gloomlord made a good point a couple pages ago:

Perhaps a futile gesture, I admit, but I think this might be a microcosm about how you should try to prevent a person holding an irrational belief in society.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because he isn't stating it as opinion. He's stating an opinion as fact when the actual facts are in direct opposition. If he just came here and said "I know mage is prolly the better choice from a min/max perspective but I personally prefer having an extra healer just in case someone sucks or messes up" then this thread would've been over in like 2-5 pages. He's perfectly entitled to that opinion. I personally have a very hard time letting it go when someone is so obviously blatantly wrong about something and they act like such a gigantic stubborn piece of shit about how right they are. He might legitimately have some mental issues IRL in which case I might feel a little bad for ragging on him so much. In my defense I have no way to actually know that short of him telling us. So until that point I'm just treating him as the stubborn illogical piece of shit that he's broadcasting himself as.

In the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter but people being this blatantly stupid and obtuse gets under my skin. I admit to having a hard time letting it go. Gloomlord made a good point a couple pages ago:

Mega Yikes. You should look in a mirror before looking at others. You haven't provided any evidence, yet you claim that your opinion is fact. How arrogant.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mega Yikes. You should look in a mirror before looking at others. You haven't provided any evidence, yet you claim that your opinion is fact. How arrogant.

You have not provided evidence for redundant shaman heals/utility being better than higher mage DPS. All the data posted thus has been strictly DPS comparisons between shaman and mage and thus far points to mage doing more damage. Literally every shred of evidence you have posted points to the opposite of your claim. If your claim is shaman is better cause of redundant heals and utility it's up to you to prove it and you have not done so. You have openly admitted that shaman is only preferable in this group for a couple of niche fights. Whether you like it or not you contradicted yourself and accidentally admitted that shaman is not the best option overall for this group.

Implying that increased DPS only matters if its enough DPS to gain an extra PH spawn is astoundingly stupid. I suggest giving up on that argument.

[Gloomlord]

It's over, DSM! We have the moral and intellectual high ground!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's over, DSM! We have the moral and intellectual high ground!

No, you have neither. You and PlsNoBan have admitted to trolling and rage posting. You also haven't provided one shred of evidence. You just have 100+ posts of insults and nonsense, the majority of your entire history. Same with PlsNoBan, hes working his way to 500 troll posts.