Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[PlsNoBan]

DSM hasn't posted in a full minute. He's either dead or cooking up a doozy of a delusional illogical post full of bullshit. My bet is on the latter

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He's now admitted that mage is better at royals and necro is better at fungi king. He's basically just clinging on to shaman being helpful for ixiblat and maybe like WW dragons? He's backed himself into a very tiny corner with his own words at this point. Would ANYBODY base their entire group makeup for 1-60 and beyond around what class makes more sense for Ixiblat? Or would you take a mage/necro that makes more sense in the vast majority of cases? I played actively on blue for YEARS and I think I killed Ixiblat like twice.

This thread really should be over. I know it won't end. But DSM literally backed himself into a tiny corner and the floor has fallen out beneath him. He's dangling by a thread and is going to continue to argue from there I'm sure.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I said all of this before, you just aren't reading, as usual. You simply have this strange straw man that I am obsessed with Shamans.

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay so we've established shaman has no place in this hypothetical best 4 man caster group outside of a niche mob or two. You keep bringing up Ixiblat which is one of very few situations where I think shaman might be helpful.

There ya have it boys and girls. If you want the best 4 man caster group for Ixiblat and maybe 1-2 other things put a shaman in there. For 1-60 and 95% of everything else at 60 pick something else.

End of thread.

Post history couldn't be clearer

[PlsNoBan]

I have some actual RL plans unlike your pretend ones. So I gotta run for a bit. I suggest you take a break as well.

[Gloomlord]

So, what you're basically saying is: you know you're wrong but don't want to admit it.

Because when you say "It is not my fault you seriously think class DPS can only be determined by gathering group data.", that's just a cowardly gesture to avoid the reality of your remarks.

You cowardly proclaim "unreliable variables with teammates" when faced with the fact that shaman is completely outclassed by mage in the group DPS role.

Even if what you say is true, then how does the parse of your solo DPS have any merit either?

In either case, you're just a cowardly scumbag too afraid to concede.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, what you're basically saying is: you know you're wrong but don't want to admit it.

Because when you say "It is not my fault you seriously think class DPS can only be determined by gathering group data.", that's just a cowardly gesture to avoid the reality of your remarks.

You cowardly proclaim "unreliable variables with teammates" when faced with the fact that shaman is completely outclassed by mage in the group DPS role.

Even if what you say is true, then how does the parse of your solo DPS have any merit either?

In either case, you're just a cowardly scumbag too afraid to concede.

You are completely misconstruing what I am asking.

If I parse really well on my Shaman because I have a group of amazing players, and the Mage parses average because their group is just average, that alone will skew the data. It is not an accurate representation of the DPS difference. This would work AGAINST the Mage, so I don't think you would want that.

The reason why you parse solo is because it removes all external variables, so you can get the true average DPS between the classes. That is the first step in determining the average difference between the classes.

Once you have that, you can take it a step further by trying to prove how easy/hard it is to hit those numbers in a group. However, you would need to have the same group for both the Shaman and the Mage to rule out the possibility that differences are caused by the difficulty of the class, and not the group members.

This is how you run experiments. You don't just test everything at once without knowing what variables are affecting which outcome.

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are completely misconstruing what I am asking.

If I parse really well on my Shaman because I have a group of amazing players, and the Mage parses average because their group is just average, that alone will skew the data. It is not an accurate representation of the DPS difference. This would work AGAINST the Mage, so I don't think you would want that.

The reason why you parse solo is because it removes all external variables, so you can get the true average DPS between the classes. That is the first step in determining the average difference between the classes.

Once you have that, you can take it a step further by trying to prove how easy/hard it is to hit those numbers in a group. However, you would need to have the same group for both the Shaman and the Mage to rule out the possibility that differences are caused by the difficulty of the class, and not the group members.

This is how you run experiments. You don't just test everything at once without knowing what variables are affecting which outcome.

You are a coward.

Parsing solo is irrelevant to group activities, you idiot. We've explained this to you several times.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are a coward.

Parsing solo is irrelevant to group activities, you idiot. We've explained this to you several times.

Insults are not an argument.

Please address this post https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...postcount=2331 .

[Gloomlord]

Pretty obvious neither I, nor PlsNoBan, are trolls with the frustrated manner in which we're typing to you.

That would completely defeat the purpose of our "trolling", wouldn't it?

People like you, and a few others I've encountered, make me seriously consider leaving this game. It's full of thoroughly unintelligent people and/or drug addicts.

When nearly the whole forum is united against you, you *KNOW* you're crazy.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty obvious neither I, nor PlsNoBan, are trolls with the frustrated manner in which we're typing to you.

That would completely defeat the purpose of our "trolling", wouldn't it?

People like you, and a few others I've encountered, make me seriously consider leaving this game. It's full of thoroughly unintelligent people and/or drug addicts.

When nearly the whole forum is united against you, you *KNOW* you're crazy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum is not an argument, it is a fallacy.

Please address my previous post.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...postcount=2331

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please address my previous post.

Pleaded the (700+ post) poster who has ignored or misconstrued his understanding (intentionally or otherwise) of many irrefutable facts, and has not answered the majority of the questions I have posed to him hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]