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Old 09-09-2022, 04:21 PM
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Honestly it depends on the camp at that point. If you want to do Enchanter/Enchanter/Cleric/X, it would depend on what you want to do. Mage would be better for something like Chardok Royals, where CoTH is necessary. Necro would be better for pulling at Fungi King Camp. Shaman would be better at Ixiblat Fer for the better Malo -> Malosini -> Slow.

If you want everything at once, Shaman/Necro/Enchanter/Mage + pocket cleric would be the best. You hit the 200 DPS breakpoint, you have enough utility/safety to do every camp, and the Shaman can swap to the Cleric for res or occasional CH to save the Necro/Mage spell reagents.
Okay so we've established shaman has no place in this hypothetical best 4 man caster group outside of a niche mob or two. You keep bringing up Ixiblat which is one of very few situations where I think shaman might be helpful.

There ya have it boys and girls. If you want the best 4 man caster group for Ixiblat and maybe 1-2 other things put a shaman in there. For 1-60 and 95% of everything else at 60 pick something else.

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Old 09-09-2022, 04:25 PM
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If you want everything at once, Shaman/Necro/Enchanter/Mage + pocket cleric would be the best. You hit the 200 DPS breakpoint, you have enough utility/safety to do every camp, and the Shaman can swap to the Cleric for res or occasional CH to save the Necro/Mage spell reagents.
Or just do Cleric/Necro/Enchanter/Mage, as I said on Page 1.

You can hit 200 dps, you have every bit of utility covered. If you need a 2nd slower, give a pet a swarmcaller or a Di`zok Oracle Shillelagh(if it's high enough). The necro can handle backup heals, but in reality the cleric will probably be nuking most of the time.

There's simply no need for a shaman, unless you can name some 4 mannable camp that requires Torpor to be rolling alongside Cheal, which I said on Page 2.

Nothing has changed 200+ posts later hehe.
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Old 09-09-2022, 04:20 PM
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No pocket cleric you’re just inventing variables at this point. It’s a 4 person caster only group, if you want a cleric it has to be one of the 4. As you said above the best would be three enchanters and a cleric, zero need for shaman in your own words
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No pocket cleric you’re just inventing variables at this point. It’s a 4 person caster only group, if you want a cleric it has to be one of the 4. As you said above the best would be three enchanters and a cleric, zero need for shaman in your own words
Nobody said you can't have a pocket Cleric. OP didn't specify this. Please stop making stuff up.
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Old 09-09-2022, 04:22 PM
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Nobody said you can't have a pocket Cleric. Please stop making stuff up.
The whole topic of the thread is best 4 person caster group. Now you’re just making up reasons to take the shaman “well you could have a pocket cleric”. If no pocket cleric best group is three enchanters and a cleric, that’s what you said…or should I quote it for you?
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Old 09-09-2022, 04:23 PM
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The whole topic of the thread is best 4 person caster group. Now you’re just making up reasons to take the shaman “well you could have a pocket cleric”. If no pocket cleric best group is three enchanters and a cleric, that’s what you said…or should I quote it for you?
Where does it say "Best 4 person all caster/priest group without a pocket cleric"?
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Old 09-09-2022, 04:24 PM
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Where does it say "Best 4 person all caster/priest group without a pocket cleric"?
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Where does it say "Best 4 person all caster/priest group without a pocket cleric"?
Ok so assuming no pocket cleric then the best four person group is 3 enchanters and cleric (your words)
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Old 09-09-2022, 04:26 PM
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Where does it say "Best 4 person all caster/priest group without a pocket cleric"?
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Old 09-09-2022, 04:28 PM
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4 person group, the cleric is either in the group as 1 of the 4, or doesn't exist. Where does it say Best 4 person caster/priest group with pocket alts?
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