Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You already admitted two enchanters and a cleric don't need more DPS lol.

1 enchanter doesn't "NEED" more dps. More dps is always nice no matter how much you have. There's a difference between what's "needed" and what's nice. Just because something isn't required doesn't make it not good.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you want a class that can open up more camps

Here we go with the Ixiblat bullshit again huh? Yeah totally worth it to pick an inferior 1-60 leveling option and something that isn't needed and brings less to the table in most areas of the game just so we can "open up" Ixiblat and maybe 1 or 2 other things AT BEST. Such a smart decision!

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

further reduce RNG problems. Thats a Shaman. Thank you for agreeing with me.

A group with enc/enc/clr isn't having RNG issues they can't handle. I don't know what fairy tale land you live in but it's extremely easy to keep charms under control with multiple encs and a cleric backing them up. There is very little actual danger here. I have not agreed with you and the fact that you think I did makes me question your mental state moreso than we all already have been.

[PlsNoBan]

Enc/Enc/Clr isn't in danger and doesn't need shaman safety.

You bring nothing but a slightly better malo and mediocre damage.

Please get off the copium.

[Ripqozko]

This is why VQ is losing now, full of DSM's

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is why VQ is losing now, full of DSM's

Like honestly it's funny and all but I was debating dusting off my old rogue at some point and this thread is 100% reason enough to make me never give VQ a second look while this guy is a member. I'm sure they're fine and like most guilds have plenty of good people. But I think I'd kill myself if I had to listen to this level of nonsense in voice comms/guild chat all the time. DSM alone steering potential apps to Riot.

[PlsNoBan]

Who the fuck runs VQ anyway? Why are they not muzzling this shit? It's straight up embarrassing.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

If you don't have RNG problems, pick another Enchanter for more DPS. If you do, pick a Shaman for better safety and the ability to do more camps.

Neither situation has Mage in it, unless you want CoTH.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shaman DPS and healing is completely irrelevant.

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2 encs and a cleric do not need:
Your healing
Your slows
Your roots
Your dots (mobs die too fast)
Your tanking
Your pet

Mobs generally die too fast and charm pets are too tanky to even worry about slowing but if you do need slow enc slow is only 5% less than yours.

Both of you have already said what other people in the thread have said, including myself. In a four man group with 2x Enchanters, DPS of the fourth member really isn't that relevant.

You claim Shaman DPS is irrelevant. Shamans can output 50 DPS vs a Mage's 80 DPS. If 50 DPS is irrelevant, you need to explain how 30 DPS makes a huge difference, to the point where it is relevant.

[Gloomlord]

What is this? I can't even...

We're arguing that, compared to mage, shaman bring less DPS, and that their utility is obsolete in this group. None of us are claiming the DPS is irrelevant.

You illiterate fool. At least read before you try to manipulate the argument in your favour.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is this? I can't even...

We're arguing that, compared to mage, shaman bring less DPS, and that their utility is obsolete in this group. None of us are claiming the DPS is irrelevant.

You illiterate fool. At least read before you try to manipulate the argument in your favour.

You can't have it both ways lol. You can't claim a Shaman's DPS is irrelevant, but a Mages is relevant when the difference isn't that big.

Shaman DPS is not somehow special. 50 Shaman DPS is the same as 50 Mage DPS.

[Gloomlord]

UTILITY!

THE WORD IS "UTILITY"!

UTILITY!