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[SenoraRaton]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah but this would kind of just be trading one unfair thing for another. If I sat there for three days and just got unlucky, and never got the item, and people kept getting it ahead of me who had only been there for a couple hours just by sheer luck, I'd be just as pissed as facing a long camp due to account sharing.

I think the /list system as implemented was the best possible solution, even though yes some people are gonna game it by account sharing. It's still MUCH better than allowing the poopsock guild to just say fuck you to the rest of the server by passing the camp off the guildies forever until the items stop dropping.

One thing that might make it fairer would simply be that if you log out\switch accounts you get booted from the list. Yes this would also be unfair to the occasional person who loses connection, but honestly in the modern age that almost never happens unless the power goes out or something, and p99 generally only crashes while zoning so that wouldn't be an issue at a list camp where you're just in one zone for a long time. So at least in this system, the unfair thing would happen very infrequently.

This doesn't solve the problem, it just makes you screen share your local machine to your friends instead. It adds a technical barrier that is surmountable.

I think the solution should be to essentially award DKP every time the PH/Named is killed.(Or possibly every time you pass an AFK check) If your logged on, and on the list, then you get a point, and the person with the most points gets the drop, if its tied, it rolls and selects one. This way you can log off and go to sleep, you can even spend an hour a day at the camp, and slowly accumulate DKP. Given enough time at camp you will get your item.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by SenoraRaton [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the solution should be to essentially award DKP every time the PH/Named is killed.(Or possibly every time you pass an AFK check) If your logged on, and on the list, then you get a point, and the person with the most points gets the drop, if its tied, it rolls and selects one. This way you can log off and go to sleep, you can even spend an hour a day at the camp, and slowly accumulate DKP. Given enough time at camp you will get your item.

Except that there is no "DKP" (or anything like it, except plat) in the game. EverQuest is not a game about guaranteed rewards: even when you raid, there's no guarantee that you'll get the mob, or that it will drop the item you want.

That was the core flaw (IMHO) of lists: they were an amazing feat of "automated GMing", which is perfectly legitimate given that we don't have paid GMs here ... but they ultimately added a very un-EQ-like loot guarantee.

[Patrece]

Originally Posted by Arvan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

List was overall an epic fail unless you had a lot of friends who wanted to account share to camp the 40 hour item drop or whatever so you could sleep. If they figured out a way to disable account sharing for lists that would make it more fair to the entire population.

Account sharing was against the original terms of service

The guild bots stuff got out of hand this go around

There's stuff they can do with IP lockouts, extend that to if you're currently on a list

Who knows if they will, otherwise there will be more list pacts made to quadruple team the wait times for each other

[Castle2.0]

Originally Posted by Patrece [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Account sharing was against the original terms of service

The guild bots stuff got out of hand this go around

There's stuff they can do with IP lockouts, extend that to if you're currently on a list

Who knows if they will, otherwise there will be more list pacts made to quadruple team the wait times for each other

This man never heard of a VPN.

[Zeboim]

Legacy items cause more gymnastics than the Olympics.

Just remove the damn things or make them never stop dropping.

[Jibartik]

I think they solved this "problem" in world of warcraft it is :that way:

[Cen]

It kind of is silly that they stop dropping. They aren't even a problem to continue dropping.
The guise is one of my favorite items in the game especially.

[Jibartik]

Best way to get a legacy item is to learn how to get there quickly at server launch speaking of hhhhngggggggg

[Zeboim]

Better get to work growing out that neckbeard now then. Only thanks to the power of a fully armed and operational one can you achieve that goal.

[Swish]

Stick a lottery npc next to Shady in the tunnel. 1kpp tickets with a 1:xxx chance of getting the guise/other similar items. Combats inflation and people can get themselves sorted.