Highspeed rail is B$it

[Jibartik]

One of the things I think I always thought about how shitty airports were was how like, no matter how shitty they treat us people just keep using them.

So maybe if we had a train system they'd try harder to convince us to fly again and we could get some legroom back.

Someone should run for president and build a train but wait no we have to elect someone who wants to do a #dark version of themselves.

[magnetaress]

Elon was like hyperloop brahs

[magnetaress]

The best way to make trains, and busses popular again is to make driving illegal, especially for illegals. Again.

[Kaveh]

Without the federal government, we likely don’t have rail, highways, or air travel

Pick your poison. I like trains and hate airline CEOs, shrug

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Kaveh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Without the federal government, we likely don’t have rail, highways, or air travel

Pick your poison. I like trains and hate airline CEOs, shrug

Yeah it’s hard to argue because it’s not like trains don’t need all that same money from the government either. Like where is America gonna put these trains? Are they just gonna buy like billions of dollars of property from people?

I bet the footprint of making and laying the track for rail across America to be efficient enough to replace air travel, would cause the climate to collapse lmao

The only reason trains are better right now is (in some situations) is because they’re brand new and they charge more.

Virgin Airlines was amazing when it was brand new it was like flying in a space casino now it’s just as much like a cattle car as any other airline.

Everything that sucks about air travel would suck about train travel.

[Jibartik]

I cant imagine that this is realistic in 50 states:

Not to mention this is already totally inefficient with people having to go all over the fricken place just to get to the next town over so Id drive every time.

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(not to mention in this thought experiment I did this to the entire Oregon coast:

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[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I cant imagine that this is realistic in 50 states:

Not to mention this is already totally inefficient with people having to go all over the fricken place just to get to the next town over so Id drive every time.

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(not to mention in this thought experiment I did this to the entire Oregon coast:

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Well it makes those cities elite cities every other city off those hub is a no longer a cool city so it creates a class of ppl that can go to any city for work if they are able to live on a train and outside of a bathroom prefect for progress imho.

Also much easier to get ppl into the concentration camps when they can't hack that lifestyle.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well it makes those cities elite cities every other city off those hub is a no longer a cool city so it creates a class of ppl that can go to any city for work if they are able to live on a train and outside of a bathroom prefect for progress imho.

Also much easier to get ppl into the concentration camps when they can't hack that lifestyle.

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Shifting to EVs is not enough. The deeper problem is our car dependence

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[Jibartik]

America cant even build a decent road and Im going to believe we could lay a delicate spiderweb across the country?

Never gonna happen.

California was supposed to prove states could do it.

Couldn't even do that!

I'm not even certain it'd be better for the environment, what is the actual infrastructure footprint of building all this? Could it be = to air travel today for like 25 years?

We built trains in america once, because we needed them, and they were the best thing we ever invented at the time. But they just dont compare to planes unless your only concern is climate change, which we've passed the point of no return on by like decades anyway so no reason to try to fix that, because Gaia is about to for us. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Couldn't even do that!

I understand why it happens, but even so, it pisses me off at some level that Amtrak, today, usually can't match the speeds railroads were routinely running 80+ years ago when they were stuck with steam engines and heavyweight plain-bearing rolling stock.

That's not even counting the whispers and legends like the claims of the S1 hitting 130 and 140+ on the flatlands west of Crestline and doing it with a thousand-plus tons on the drawbar.

We could've done it, but we elected to go a different route. I agree it's probably the wrong time to try to change tack now. Conditions might change later on.

Danth