14 Children and Teacher Killed in Texas Elementary School Shooting

[loramin]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Citizens are probably pretty fucked if the US military was ever turned on them

We’d have to bank on the fact that the military, being composed of humans who have families, wouldn’t want to genocide people and defect (with their tech ideally)

Being aware the Nuremberg Defense is an immoral thing makes it easier to fight against now

This, so much. It's not the 2nd amendment standing between us and an elite government takeover of America ... it's the Americans serving under them.

But, our right-wing fantasies about the need to keep our citizenry armed with as much weaponry as possible ... like it was 1776 all over again and they needed protection because the British were coming ... is killing real children today.

[Rethalis]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This, so much. It's not the 2nd amendment standing between us and an elite government takeover of America ... it's the Americans serving under them.

But, our right-wing fantasies about the need to keep our citizenry armed with as much weaponry as possible ... like it was 1776 all over again and they needed protection because the British were coming ... is killing real children today.

I'm pretty sure it was a psycho and a dead beat dad that caused this. Not legally law abiding citizens.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Rethalis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty sure it was a psycho and a dead beat dad that caused this. Not legally law abiding citizens.

But again, other countries have psycho/dead beat dads ... and yet they don't have crazy mass killings like we do.

People with mental problems exist worldwide, but it's unique to America that we do so little to limit their access to weaponry.

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This, so much. It's not the 2nd amendment standing between us and an elite government takeover of America ... it's the Americans serving under them.

But, our right-wing fantasies about the need to keep our citizenry armed with as much weaponry as possible ... like it was 1776 all over again and they needed protection because the British were coming ... is killing real children today.

Like a woman crawling a man for money.

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This, so much. It's not the 2nd amendment standing between us and an elite government takeover of America ... it's the Americans serving under them.

But, our right-wing fantasies about the need to keep our citizenry armed with as much weaponry as possible ... like it was 1776 all over again and they needed protection because the British were coming ... is killing real children today.

So you're making the argument that since the government is so big and evil, and that you think the humans in the military are depraved enough to mass murder americans on US Soil, that it makes sense to give up your 2nd amendment right.

That doesn't seem like a sound chain of logic.

Also do the fucking math US owned guns vs actual US soldiers. It comes back to the US military needing to mass bomb entire populations if it came to an actual rebellion, and again, the fact that the US government could and might consider mass bombing us is NOT a compelling argument to abandon the second amendment.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Skarne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But based on that logic it would be constitutional for anyone to own a gun despite the current regs..it’s just not realistic there’s a reason SCOTUS has ruled on this several times.

Well yeah, im not going to argue that all the gun laws today are not unconstitutional, because they are.

But I agree we need some, dont get mad at me for just saying it like it is. With a purely constitutional SC we should be able to get rid of them all.

If you want me to say it like it "should be" then we should have a new america forged from the ashes of the old.

[Skarne]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well yeah, im not going to argue that all the gun laws today are not unconstitutional, because they are.

But I agree we need some, dont get mad at me for just saying it like it is. With a purely constitutional SC we should be able to get rid of them all.

If you want me to say it like it "should be" then we should have a new america forged from the ashes of the old.

Don’t get me wrong I’m not mad man just trying to reason with a stranger cause thou shalt not talk politics these days. Especially in a professional environment I leave that to the suits in DC and the internet

[Skarne]

Haha gosh that’s completely unreasonable to me that people here think legislation is completely off the table and untouchable. Despite there already being laws in place about procuring weapons. Hope you guys enjoy dead innocence cause nothings going to change if this board is even 10% reflective of our society.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by Skarne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha gosh that’s completely unreasonable to me that people here think legislation is completely off the table and untouchable. Despite there already being laws in place about procuring weapons. Hope you guys enjoy dead innocence cause nothings going to change if this board is even 10% reflective of our society.

The Fox News addicts are actually closer to thirty percent and yeah we're going to be pretty fucked as a country.

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Skarne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha gosh that’s completely unreasonable to me that people here think legislation is completely off the table and untouchable. Despite there already being laws in place about procuring weapons. Hope you guys enjoy dead innocence cause nothings going to change if this board is even 10% reflective of our society.

And patriam wonders why I set in on this so fast. Broken records. You see the plan works on Skarne at least. I think he would give up rights, whittle things down over time (only for good reasons) until the rights were essentially lip-service only.

Do you guys really play this game for fun and does your conscience ever bother you at night?

Note: Mead went all-in on masks during the Cantonese Cough & Sneeze, where is he again?