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Old 06-06-2022, 11:15 PM
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Old 06-06-2022, 11:20 PM
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A blood test will pick it up as it happens. All the concern can be completely alleviated by saying “hey maybe you should get regular blood work”

But “hey I think you’re for sure going to die 10 years early regardless of any modern medicine” is a lot more provocative, if that’s your intent
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Old 06-06-2022, 11:29 PM
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Maybe starkind can pick it up but I'm out of steam.

We'll get you Gadget! 🐱
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Old 06-06-2022, 11:54 PM
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Well, some rugged individuals survived the frontier and WWII to gracefully age into their 80s.

A good goal is to aim for quality of life. A pious one at that.

Not gamble a miserable 60s, 70s. If you are lucky.
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Old 06-07-2022, 12:08 AM
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I dedicate tonight’s run to the concerned online elves

I pulled back the speed and distance a bit not because of you guys, but because it’s actually starting to get hot here in az and being in a concrete jungle means the night is no reprieve. And heat is an actual legitimate danger I respect

Now to go do 2 hours of legs, abs, lower back, and obliques. Hawaii is only 9 days away
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Old 06-07-2022, 12:20 AM
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Well, I think living in Phoenix is gonnagetchtya more than anything else. So u can check that box ✔😏
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Old 06-07-2022, 12:24 AM
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Well, I think living in Phoenix is gonnagetchtya more than anything else. So u can check that box ✔😏
Lung cancer from our shit air quality, the equivalent to smoking a part of a pack of cigs per day is what will most likely kill me before my heart or liver ever could
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Old 06-07-2022, 12:07 PM
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Lung cancer from our shit air quality, the equivalent to smoking a part of a pack of cigs per day is what will most likely kill me before my heart or liver ever could
I've been reading this thread but missed the part about your heart and liver. What's the worry?
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Old 06-07-2022, 08:45 PM
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I've been reading this thread but missed the part about your heart and liver. What's the worry?
Some people incorrectly thought that my liver was somehow at risk due to my lifestyle. The first suggestion was that I might give myself rhabdo. This is ridiculous, to do so would require me to train probably 5+ hours per day or basically to the point where my muscles were taking so much damage that they would no longer be solid tissue and instead be dissolving into my bloodstream. A common way of getting rhabdo not from exercise is an incredibly physically traumatic car accident

Elite CrossFit athletes have given themselves rhabdo, but they were not only on PED’s to allow such incredible amounts of strain, but also we’re training to compete as their only form of income. Thus, they would push far past when their brain and body were telling them to stop. I am not nearly as mentally hardcore as that, nor do I have this fear in the back of my mind that if I don’t push myself past my human limits, that I won’t be able to earn any money to survive on. So rhabdo is out of the question

Then they thought that eating large quantities of food/protein was going to cause damage to my liver. Eating insane amounts of protein can be hard on the kidneys, this is documented in the fitness community, but it takes RIDICULOUS amounts of protein like 500+ grams per day for months before someone’s kidneys could be damaged. I mentioned that we can test for liver damage by blood tests, to which they had really no retort other than implying that somehow I would do some form of damage which wouldn’t be detectable during a blood test, or that I would wait until my liver was destroyed (somehow, still not explained well) before getting said test

Basically it was a concern troll. Or that’s how it appeared to me, maybe it was genuine concern
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Old 06-07-2022, 09:38 PM
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Some people incorrectly thought that my liver was somehow at risk due to my lifestyle. The first suggestion was that I might give myself rhabdo. This is ridiculous, to do so would require me to train probably 5+ hours per day or basically to the point where my muscles were taking so much damage that they would no longer be solid tissue and instead be dissolving into my bloodstream. A common way of getting rhabdo not from exercise is an incredibly physically traumatic car accident

Elite CrossFit athletes have given themselves rhabdo, but they were not only on PED’s to allow such incredible amounts of strain, but also we’re training to compete as their only form of income. Thus, they would push far past when their brain and body were telling them to stop. I am not nearly as mentally hardcore as that, nor do I have this fear in the back of my mind that if I don’t push myself past my human limits, that I won’t be able to earn any money to survive on. So rhabdo is out of the question

Then they thought that eating large quantities of food/protein was going to cause damage to my liver. Eating insane amounts of protein can be hard on the kidneys, this is documented in the fitness community, but it takes RIDICULOUS amounts of protein like 500+ grams per day for months before someone’s kidneys could be damaged. I mentioned that we can test for liver damage by blood tests, to which they had really no retort other than implying that somehow I would do some form of damage which wouldn’t be detectable during a blood test, or that I would wait until my liver was destroyed (somehow, still not explained well) before getting said test

Basically it was a concern troll. Or that’s how it appeared to me, maybe it was genuine concern
No one said you would get rhabdo or acute organ poisoning, so it's entirely a strawman to argue against those. Organs buckle under heavy stress over time.

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