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Old 05-07-2022, 05:11 PM
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well, let's think about what a life is, and think about what alive is and then think about what a human life is.

What's the difference?

- A plant is alive, cells are alive, virus's are alive, so being 'alive' is no right to life.

- fending for yourself, outside of the womb, an animal can do that, and they have no right to life anymore than a virus does, so that doesnt hold up.

- being an individual. A person that can speak for themself, and give their own reason for why they have a right to live, that is a person. That's what gives you a right to life.

But if that is a person, then you have to be able to speak and rationalize to argue that, so that means that anything under like the age of 5 doesnt have a right to life.

No, you have to consider, the right to live in society is an individual, and if an individual cant defend themselves (child, coma etc) we have to define what an individual is for them, and the only way you can do that, is by looking at their DNA and the DNA from fertiliziation until death, through comatose, and lost limbs, or being forced to live in an iron lung, through all of that your DNA does not change.

So once taht DNA sequence is created, I argue that that individual exists, and if you destroy it, you are destroying the individual, and if an individual is what we define as a life, then you are comitting an act of murder.

I jsut dont think that you can say that fending for yourself compares to this argument.
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Old 05-07-2022, 05:17 PM
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To be fair we do have conditions where a right ot life is voided, crime, war, etc, but is that really something we should be shooting for as the correct way to do things? or can we do better than that?

That's my argument against abortion.
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Old 05-07-2022, 05:32 PM
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To be fair we do have conditions where a right ot life is voided, crime, war, etc, but is that really something we should be shooting for as the correct way to do things? or can we do better than that?

That's my argument against abortion.
then become anti-capitalist, that's the way to do better than that
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Old 05-07-2022, 06:11 PM
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then become anti-capitalist, that's the way to do better than that
Not really. Non-capitalists haven't done any better lol.
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Old 05-07-2022, 07:19 PM
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then become anti-capitalist, that's the way to do better than that
the only thing I'd be doing besides capitalism is worshiping a man flying on a glass panel with a giant eyeball floating over his head.

Besides that, capitalism has provided the most good in this world and I know you disagree but I just think that if you look at the number of people who are not living in poverty since its invention and directly as a result of, compared to those "slaves" you say in taiwan making stuff have it worse than the dead people in russia, then im just going to have to disagree.

All the crime in the world comes from greed, capitalilsm is just a tool as much as a gun is, and greed is what you should be against.

socialist greed, capitalist greed, whatever its all bad. But the good of both are great.

But living in a happy tribe, worshiping eye in the sky is better, do not get me wrong. I will just only allow an eye in the sky to convince me he's gonna pull that off.
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Old 05-07-2022, 05:17 PM
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Paste eating ghouls trying to justify murder in the womb
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Old 05-07-2022, 06:32 PM
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a virus is NOT a living being

bacteria yes, virus no.
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Old 05-07-2022, 06:37 PM
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a virus is NOT a living being

bacteria yes, virus no.
Paste eaters went from "Safe, Legal and Rare" to comparing killing babies to stomping on bugs

So compassionate and tolerant these people
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Old 05-07-2022, 11:16 PM
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a virus is NOT a living being

bacteria yes, virus no.
haha and just like that, violent fantasy boy trexller has solved one of the longest standing debates between virology and biology because it suits his massively convoluted argument about exactly how to destroy the freedom of half of all americans

these are the same fellas that tell us that they, in fact, are the ones who understand gender identity
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Old 05-07-2022, 09:19 PM
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I would love to see a poll of all women in the US and what their stance is on abortion. That stance should be the federal law

This doesn’t even effect us, I can’t for the life of me imagine why y’all care about this enough to call it murder. Like every poor dumb horny 18 year old bimbo is a murderer and wasn’t just horny with a dude who apparently didn’t have enough control to pull out

It ain’t murder; it ain’t any of y’all’s or my business. Elon Musk agrees!
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