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Old 05-03-2022, 04:04 PM
xdrcfrx xdrcfrx is offline
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the problem with this framing is that you don't get to go into the dragons lair and kill it unless you are the guild doing the leapfrogging or the dragon is uncontested
why is leapfrogging fundamentally bad?

or, put another way: what makes losing because you got leapfrogged different that losing because you dropped the pull or losing because you wiped or losing because you lost the race?
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Old 05-03-2022, 04:55 PM
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why is leapfrogging fundamentally bad?

or, put another way: what makes losing because you got leapfrogged different that losing because you dropped the pull or losing because you wiped or losing because you lost the race?
leapfrogging is determined by who can log in more people, i.e. how many more mobs can you train/kite than the other guilds

dropped pulls/picked up pulls is determined by rng and who is better at the game
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Old 05-04-2022, 03:26 AM
Lewkeng Lewkeng is offline
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the problem with this framing is that you don't get to go into the dragons lair and kill it unless you are the guild doing the leapfrogging or the dragon is uncontested

i dont understand why this leapfrogging thing is a problem... competition is gonna jump infront of you if they have a chance... i never understood how people complain about this then say why is there no competition, you literally have to do it..
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Old 05-05-2022, 02:42 AM
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i dont understand why this leapfrogging thing is a problem... competition is gonna jump infront of you if they have a chance... i never understood how people complain about this then say why is there no competition, you literally have to do it..
Its mainly because one guild spends two hours clearing while the "leapfrogger" afk's and then jumps in to kill the named at the end without doing any work. I get that white people don't get the issue with this as it is how America was built, but the bottom 90% are not smart enough to rise up against the top 10%. but sitting on your ass waiting for other people to do the work and then leapfrogging them and getting the rewards, isnt really competition. its just capitalism. Its like the warm body's just want to log in and loot dragons corpses at the zone in while 2 people do all the work and pull the mob to the zone in, and call it competition.
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Old 05-03-2022, 12:33 PM
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The answer is both simple and classic. Unroot the dragons and don't merge Green with Blue. Turn one of them into a carebear rotation server and the other a FFA no CSR on raid targets server. Then sit back and watch everyone have fun the way they want it.
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Old 05-03-2022, 01:00 PM
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Unroot them on red and red2.0

Merge green and blue and put npcs that respond to /random and despawn after 30 seconds dropping loot on a dragon corpse locked to the winners of /ran. Make the dragons nonkos and noninteractive.
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Old 05-03-2022, 01:21 PM
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Unroot them on red and red2.0

Merge green and blue and put npcs that respond to /random and despawn after 30 seconds dropping loot on a dragon corpse locked to the winners of /ran. Make the dragons nonkos and noninteractive.
I thought Red was the noninteractive server.
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Old 05-03-2022, 01:40 PM
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I thought Red was the noninteractive server.


It is only if u run to the ZL and /q like a little 🐝🤔
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Old 05-03-2022, 01:10 PM
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Old 05-03-2022, 02:01 PM
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unpin the dragonkin
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