What lvl to Quad

[Atmas]

It's no contest.

Pillar of Frost:

At 51 (First lvl available)
755 damage per mob x 4 / 325 mana = 9.29 dpmana

Will actually go up to 800 damage per mob and 9.846 dpmana

Circle of Force:

At 34 (First lvl available)
202 damage per mob x 4 / 175 mana = 4.617 dpmana

Will go up to 216 damage per mob and 4.937 dpmana

Same cast, recast, and resist modifier.

[WizardEQ]

I can't believe I ate the WHOLE thing!

Thanks for your input on good quadding spots. They help when waiting for group or just logging for a few.

Ok, I finally did a full quad in OT yesterday at lvl 38.

I did it on 4 succulents, had to re-do BoF only once (which is typically), got no adds / resists (thank god). Three of them dropped at once, last one with a nuke. I didn't have to cast Harvest, and I had 17% of mana left.

Picture-perfect quad with 1.5 blues of exp.

Maybe we're just mis-remembering resists rates, but I'm CERTAIN that fizzle rates are fucked up still (god I feel old).

Xaxian

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by WizardEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I did it on 4 succulents, had to re-do BoF only once (which is typically), got no adds / resists (thank god). Three of them dropped at once, last one with a nuke. I didn't have to cast Harvest, and I had 17% of mana left.

During successful quads, i've never had to reapply BoF. The only times I have to cast it multiple times is if I get a resist on the initial cast or a bunch of resists on the AoE, which ceased after I stopped trying to take on Specs between 37-40 and went with a more consistent location. I don't think i've had meaningful AoE resists since level 46.

Originally Posted by WizardEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never saw post about quadding mammoth. Maybe stupid question but no snare is needed for these guys I guess.

Once you get your level 24 AoE column of lightning (you can do it with the level 16 version - pillar of fire - as well, and it is safer, but takes a bit longer), you can full-speed AoE kite mammoths in EF straight to 31. It's amazing exp. You can do it to 32, but It slowed down significantly at 31. You can actually full-speed quad pretty well with the 51+ pillar line, since pillar of frost casts very quickly.

[WizardEQ]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

During successful quads, i've never had to reapply BoF. The only times I have to cast it multiple times is if I get a resist on the initial cast or a bunch of resists on the AoE, which ceased after I stopped trying to take on Specs between 37-40 and went with a more consistent location. I don't think i've had meaningful AoE resists since level 46.

Guess I need alot more practice. At lvl 36-37 it seemed like jail-break time, recasting BoF, resists, etc.

So at lvl 38, Specs in Oasis, or are you saying they'll be too many resists?

I hate getting that first resists, even though if you're careful you can still pull it out. Clean casts are amazing when they happen.

I don't know how others are doing it at lvl 16, without jboots and snare, always relying on a friendly druid to pop by and being careful with mobs biting them in the ass! I still don't have jboots but at least can afford paying for SoWs now. In OT, even with BoF the mobs seem to almost catch up to me. The OT mobs seem alot faster than anything but Griffs elsewhere.

Xaxian

[Raavak]

That spell is a really common drop too. Maybe check with the Skyfire ae group, you could get one cheap or less maybe. Or wherever they are vendoring (WC or Felwithe).

And yeah, the Kunark column spells are like 2x as efficient as the classic ones. Its huge.

[Felwithemagi]

I remember leveling up and fizzling like mad. While watching /auc I would just cast the same cheap spell/school over and over. When I got here there was none of that and I said 'ok, kinda cool'. After the latest patch it seems more in line like I remember it on live.

[Raavak]

"full speed kiting" as I call it, without snare, is really exciting because you can't delay an instant or you get hit. Fun, but you also use extra time building space between you and the quad. I was doing this at aviaks before mammoths. Its nice seeing the exp bar move a blue at a time...