Fresh pure classic server opinion?

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The most active people on the forum are not the most active people in the game,

In any case play another server to go past velious, there are many.

A vanilla locked server would be great. We can dream

Kunark locked would be great, IMO. Level 60, just enough twinkage to stand out, and the epics are in play. Vanilla no expansions just doesn't have enough, IMO.

[Gustoo]

Vanilla is a lot more "beatable" no doubt about it. The best part about vanilla is the gear progression is all on point. Cloth and leather and ringmail and bronze all fit, and are all bettered by banded, which is bettered by the quested crafted lambent ivy etched armor, which is bested by planar.

All that goes out the window with kunark and the whole old world progression turns to vendor gear. Like, the short sword of ykesha is the best example of something that turns from top tier to junk tier overnight its just a bummer. 1 year is too short for vanilla.

[eqravenprince]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vanilla is a lot more "beatable" no doubt about it. The best part about vanilla is the gear progression is all on point. Cloth and leather and ringmail and bronze all fit, and are all bettered by banded, which is bettered by the quested crafted lambent ivy etched armor, which is bested by planar.

All that goes out the window with kunark and the whole old world progression turns to vendor gear. Like, the short sword of ykesha is the best example of something that turns from top tier to junk tier overnight its just a bummer. 1 year is too short for vanilla.

Absolutely agree.

In addition, I like vanilla because there are 18 bind spots in and 16 different zones you can get group ports to. Vs kunark only 3 reasonable bind points and 3 group ports. And way less overpowered twink gear. Majority of best in slot gear is mostly no drop and requires a group or raid. In kunark, you want best in slot, you can just farm guards with your solo character, then turn around and buy best in slot gear for your alt.

[Arvan]

Originally Posted by eqravenprince [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Absolutely agree.

In addition, I like vanilla because there are 18 bind spots in and 16 different zones you can get group ports to. Vs kunark only 3 reasonable bind points and 3 group ports. And way less overpowered twink gear. Majority of best in slot gear is mostly no drop and requires a group or raid. In kunark, you want best in slot, you can just farm guards with your solo character, then turn around and buy best in slot gear for your alt.

Sorry you don't got best in slot (vp)

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vanilla is a lot more "beatable" no doubt about it. The best part about vanilla is the gear progression is all on point. Cloth and leather and ringmail and bronze all fit, and are all bettered by banded, which is bettered by the quested crafted lambent ivy etched armor, which is bested by planar.

All that goes out the window with kunark and the whole old world progression turns to vendor gear. Like, the short sword of ykesha is the best example of something that turns from top tier to junk tier overnight its just a bummer. 1 year is too short for vanilla.

Vanilla better have some cheap weapons that are better than 0.5 ratio...

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by Loadsamoney [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vanilla better have some cheap weapons that are better than 0.5 ratio...

?? Like are you trying to say Vanilla is going to need to up its game to win your over? lol.

It is what it is. The best rogue weapon is 13/30 crystalline spear and one of the best warrior weapons is 8/24 SSOY

Mithril 2hs is one of the better 2 handers at 21/40 with built in haste.

Then there is planar stuff later.

Best in slot for monk is like..full cloth armor. A real ostere monk its a badass class in vanilla.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

?? Like are you trying to say Vanilla is going to need to up its game to win your over? lol.

It is what it is. The best rogue weapon is 13/30 crystalline spear and one of the best warrior weapons is 8/24 SSOY

Mithril 2hs is one of the better 2 handers at 21/40 with built in haste.

Then there is planar stuff later.

Best in slot for monk is like..full cloth armor. A real ostere monk its a badass class in vanilla.

I love how the monk’s power came from rejecting possession. It was such a cool theme.

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

?? Like are you trying to say Vanilla is going to need to up its game to win your over? lol.

It is what it is. The best rogue weapon is 13/30 crystalline spear and one of the best warrior weapons is 8/24 SSOY

Mithril 2hs is one of the better 2 handers at 21/40 with built in haste.

Then there is planar stuff later.

Best in slot for monk is like..full cloth armor. A real ostere monk its a badass class in vanilla.

So what, a twinked Ranger is going to be in full banded and Ebony Bladed Longswords?

No, give me my dual Lammies, give me my Sarnak Backstabber, my Jade Mace, give me weapons that aren't butt.

[Tunabros]

unroot dwagons

[Loadsamoney]

Of course, the exp penalties means nobody will want to group with Hybrids, even useful ones like Bards. Rangers are gonna go hungry.