why cant we just have Red server reset?

[New_Guy]

Originally Posted by Duvain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even if red does have a few scumbags, who cares. Every game has toxic players. Not sure why it should kill it for all of the other people who enjoy it for what it is. Red99 was the most fun I've had in a game in a long time.

Green/Blue are OK but I really like the extra aspect and thrill pvp brings to the game, even as a mostly pve oriented player. It totally changes the dynamic of the game. As old as EQ is, it's still my favorite MMO of all time.

I hope we get a "purple" or some sort of pvp version of green one day.

You clearly never played on Red, it's a fucking cesspool, it's not a few bad apples, it's more like a pool of radioactive shit you would have to dive through to find one good apple.

The majority would scream racial slurs all day if they weren't monitored constantly, over 70% are actively trying to either run showEQ, MQ, or multibox. Any rules put into place become a constant lobbyquest to GM's where you have to sift through rivers of lies to find out who is framing who.

All you blues and greens wanna claim it's the same as red yet red remains the GM Afghanistan, claiming at least 3 GM's and 1 dev.

[Duvain]

Originally Posted by New_Guy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You clearly never played on Red, it's a fucking cesspool, it's not a few bad apples, it's more like a pool of radioactive shit you would have to dive through to find one good apple.

The majority would scream racial slurs all day if they weren't monitored constantly, over 70% are actively trying to either run showEQ, MQ, or multibox. Any rules put into place become a constant lobbyquest to GM's where you have to sift through rivers of lies to find out who is framing who.

All you blues and greens wanna claim it's the same as red yet red remains the GM Afghanistan, claiming at least 3 GM's and 1 dev.

Yea, "clearly". I played on red for a long time, 60 epic monk (Quota), rogue (Duvain), warrior (Ecbert), non epic bard (Encore), epic cleric (Benedict), among some other 50+ toons. I was in Holocaust/Empire, Tempest, Apex, some other guilds.

Red was a million times more fun than blue/green ever were for someone like me who was never one of the "popular" people who always blew up OOC with bs or trolled people. Just my opinion.

I enjoyed the PvE mostly with the extra aspec of PvP to keep you on your toes or switch things up a bit. It adds a nice dynamic to the game instead of just sitting in EC tunnel all day.

[hekbringer]

Originally Posted by Duvain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea, "clearly". I played on red for a long time, 60 epic monk (Quota), rogue (Duvain), warrior (Ecbert), non epic bard (Encore), epic cleric (Benedict), among some other 50+ toons. I was in Holocaust/Empire, Tempest, Apex, some other guilds.

Red was a million times more fun than blue/green ever were for someone like me who was never one of the "popular" people who always blew up OOC with bs or trolled people. Just my opinion.

I enjoyed the PvE mostly with the extra aspec of PvP to keep you on your toes or switch things up a bit. It adds a nice dynamic to the game instead of just sitting in EC tunnel all day.

Yeah, other than pvp anxiety I'm really not sure what would keep people from Red.

PVP is obnoxuous when provoked by someone uninterested in your camp and just seeking to waste 20 minutes CR from your day. However its great fun when guilds are contesting raid mobs and a quick solution to camp disputes, often resulting in a weaker stomached player fleeing to do whatever their second choice is.

Overall a nice server that could honestly be over ran with the "civilized" blue folk if a consolidated effort were made. Then you could hire sherrifs and lay bounties on grieves such as 30 days LNS enforcement upon sight.

[hekbringer]

Originally Posted by New_Guy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You clearly never played on Red, it's a fucking cesspool, it's not a few bad apples, it's more like a pool of radioactive shit you would have to dive through to find one good apple.

The majority would scream racial slurs all day if they weren't monitored constantly, over 70% are actively trying to either run showEQ, MQ, or multibox. Any rules put into place become a constant lobbyquest to GM's where you have to sift through rivers of lies to find out who is framing who.

All you blues and greens wanna claim it's the same as red yet red remains the GM Afghanistan, claiming at least 3 GM's and 1 dev.

Not my experience. There are some sadist who seemingly only enjoy preventing enjoyment for others but I feel the vast majority are there with a pve agenda, simply valuing pvp as an accessory and tool to what is already a good game.

PVP is why my gear has value beyond the journey of acquiring. That is everything.

[Duvain]

Originally Posted by hekbringer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not my experience. There are some sadist who seemingly only enjoy preventing enjoyment for others but I feel the vast majority are there with a pve agenda, simply valuing pvp as an accessory and tool to what is already a good game.

PVP is why my gear has value beyond the journey of acquiring. That is everything.

Well said, exactly how I feel.

[New_Guy]

Originally Posted by New_Guy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You clearly never played on Red, it's a fucking cesspool, it's not a few bad apples, it's more like a pool of radioactive shit you would have to dive through to find one good apple.

The majority would scream racial slurs all day if they weren't monitored constantly, over 70% are actively trying to either run showEQ, MQ, or multibox. Any rules put into place become a constant lobbyquest to GM's where you have to sift through rivers of lies to find out who is framing who.

All you blues and greens wanna claim it's the same as red yet red remains the GM Afghanistan, claiming at least 3 GM's and 1 dev.

Originally Posted by hekbringer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not my experience. There are some sadist who seemingly only enjoy preventing enjoyment for others but I feel the vast majority are there with a pve agenda, simply valuing pvp as an accessory and tool to what is already a good game.

PVP is why my gear has value beyond the journey of acquiring. That is everything.

Considering that I was a member of the largest guilds on Red, privy to the Teamspeak and discord of the inner circle of every powerful guild on the server. That I battled the best geared and most reputable PvEer's and PvPers on a daily basis and could easily tell from first hand combat who was cheating and who wasn't, my opinion holds a lot more weight than the gullible dreams of a non-factor whose wishing for a reality that doesn't exist.

While the PvPers were the one's most guilty of ShowEQ, MQ, bindcamping and training. The PvE crowd were the most guilty of RMT, multiboxing, and Zerging, both sides contributed equally to server population death.

Ignoring the history of the past will simply doom you to repeat it, hope un-tempered by actuality is simply naivety. When Red has claimed 2 GM's for RMT and deviant corruption with well known ties to guild affiliations and left a dev with questionable motives and code changes in adherence to a very disreputable source; while the largest guild on the server was disbanded for multiple offences that went over-looked, what I'm saying is merely a reality that has to be embraced rather than ignored.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by New_Guy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You clearly never played on Red, it's a fucking cesspool, it's not a few bad apples, it's more like a pool of radioactive shit you would have to dive through to find one good apple.

The majority would scream racial slurs all day if they weren't monitored constantly, over 70% are actively trying to either run showEQ, MQ, or multibox. Any rules put into place become a constant lobbyquest to GM's where you have to sift through rivers of lies to find out who is framing who.

All you blues and greens wanna claim it's the same as red yet red remains the GM Afghanistan, claiming at least 3 GM's and 1 dev.

This is an accurate description of red. I have a hard time remembering a more toxic environnment, maybe dethecus during wow classic comes close but still not there. Thats why the server will fail if they dont pre-empt the kind of trouble that was described to the devs once again (just like during the weeks following launch, which they failed to act upon) on a silver platter if they only cared to read.

I mean even the staff is toxic, in its own way. Saying youre launching a new red server 2 years ago then closing the info faucet and not even commenting on a 100+ page thread wondering if we are ever going to see 2.0., using the toxic elements they fostered by not acting up on feedback as a cop-out and pretext to treat the community poorly.

Who the fuck does that kind of shit?

[starkind]

New Guy is like the Ghost of R99. Watch out for him. He'll come outta no where and pvp u even on green99.

[Disease]

Hasn't been an update on green since 2021... Yall never getting another red.

[Insaiyan]

Does dot damage text show up on red? Or a pet window? Just wondering