New VzTz PVP Server

[New_Guy]

Originally Posted by naez 9000.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You make some valid points about playstyle differences between Red99 and VZTZ, but there are a lot of rumors you are creating that are simply not true.

There were some horrible bugs that plagued the launch (mostly because we beta tested for a couple of months building from stock eqemu, until last minute inherited the RoZ code and didn't want to push the release date back yet again). I'm happy that we have gotten pretty much all of the janky shit fixed and are now coding the custom features on the roadmap. Voidd is revamping resists and such but everything will need a re-tune anyway once we see what happens in Kunark and the lobbyquesters start lobbying.

But I don't share anything with "my buddies" and don't really have any idea what's going on in game other than the basics of the guild politics (because truly, I don't care). There's not some top secret list of exploitable/buggy things, everything I know about comes from the public bug reports. I make 0 content choices, by choice/design, that's all up to Skeeter and Voidd. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't start a rumor I used logic to systematically dismantle why your server is a farce of a pvp server that caters to blue carebears who want to wear a cape and not be actual superheroes.

And it's 100% spot on to the point where you can't give one reasonable refute.

and as for you being on the up and up when I still see Cwall and Kringes ballsweat drying on your lips, lol, just lol.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by New_Guy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. Dual Boxing: This is the biggest fucking mistake you can do on any PvP server, because without a monetary cost to limit characters, you just gave every player the full range of buffs at all times.

PvP balance was built into EQ with limitations of classes, now every dmg dealer has full Cleric or Shaman buffs and a pocket healer/porter at their disposal at all times. Doubling the numbers of any zerg and decreasing their susceptibility to smaller numbered better skilled players who could address their numbers with superior tactics. Now sheer numbers rule.

Adding this here even though we never know if the devs are reading, they seem to be doing just exactly what they think is right and stay with it even when it goes hilariously bad so its like pissing in the wind but here goes:

There should be no exceptions. Blablabla my sister plays but in practice, i would bet people have their porters, buffers etc... its just stupid because as someone who plays legit, you know people are doing this while im dropping my fungi on the floor, unable to trade, port, etc... unless that one person i trust is online. Coming back after months, years, that person isnt there anymore. Just dont allow it, especially on a pvp server.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Shac [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is such a non-point and a lie. You want to dictate how people play on a PVP server, but that's not your decision to make.

Without level caps and character creation caps, on a new server, you get a world where people can do exactly this. You fight them, so they get on an alt or they find another spot to farm. Your point is invalidated when we use the current ruleset.

Even if there was a character creation and level cap, to make sure people were playing one character and not avoiding PVP; which sounds like your reason why you're against level caps. But creating a new way to play, eventually all players at the end of the timeline will reach level cap and make alts regardless. It will end up how ever people find the most fun way to play in that ruleset.

Norrath is big enough to farm other things, you don't get to exist to contest everything. Rulesets to help create new ways to play a pvp server and extend the longevity of a server that typically dies off VS saying how people play in that ruleset, are two different things.

Reebz logic is what tanked red originally. He wants to be able to stomp casuals into the ground with them having no other option but to log out, ideally forever. If you set up the server in a way that casuals have a place on it, the healthy pop in itself will make you have targets.

[Gustoo]

Reebz I was concerned about the multi character thing too but a psycho with twenty level tens is a lot better than a psycho with a level 50 on day 4.

Like if he wants to have a stack of accounts he simultaneously leveled to 50 who cares when boxing is illegal and by the time the cap is level 30 your gunna have things to do other than level alts because you will wanna start gearing up.

Sure it creates multi toon problems. How would you combat that? I dunno

[reebz]

That's literally the point. If he just has 1 level 50 and dies that's it hes done for the night.

[Gustoo]

The goal is to get there to be action at level 1-49 for longer than 3 days.

What’s your proposal?

Mine is level caps. It isn’t perfect.

[New_Guy]

I like how you all keep saying powergamers lmfao these aren't 12 year old kids these are 40 year old men living off government assistance, with no job, no sex, no hope and most likely addicted to meth they make in a trailer in the woods.

Powergamers this is a 25 year old elf sim, there are no EQ powergamers, just fucking losers soaking my tax dollars with federal assistance.

[EatitNerd]

Originally Posted by New_Guy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like how you all keep saying powergamers lmfao these aren't 12 year old kids these are 40 year old men living off government assistance, with no job, no sex, no hope and most likely addicted to meth they make in a trailer in the woods.

Powergamers this is a 25 year old elf sim, there are no EQ powergamers, just fucking losers soaking my tax dollars with federal assistance.

Interesting take from the dude power gaming eq emu forums.

[New_Guy]

Originally Posted by EatitNerd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interesting take from the dude power gaming eq emu forums.

So, you are a loser methhead living with Mom and playing EQ at 40, yea I read between the lines, no wonder you are so mad on every post.

Your dick is just an ornament at this point a sad little testament to your inceldom.

[EatitNerd]

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