Isn't it time to find out what lies in the future for the servers?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Saying it doesn't cost a lot to run a game server with 1000+ people on it is silly.

Let's strong man the argument and say his power/internet bill is not much higher than the average person, lets say 2x as expensive due to computers running 24/7 and the requirement of running a high speed internet service.

Those are not the only costs that go in to maintaining the server. They cost a lot of time to manage if don't want frequent outages. The fact that these servers are so consistent on their up time is pretty impressive.

Who is monitoring the servers to ensure there isn't a problem when the server manager wants to go out on a date with their wife, or on vacation? Either you are paying someone else to monitor it, or you are watching it yourself, which means you aren't really enjoying that date or that vacation.

Whenever hardware goes bad someone has to go out, buy the parts, fix the computer, and make sure everything is ok.

Also, the Dev's are not just keeping the server up, they are actively developing new code and watching for cheaters/RMTers. That also takes a lot of time out of your day if you do it semi-frequently.

Managing a server, even one that is relatively small like P99, isn't easy, unless you don't mind there being tons of problems and spotty coverage. If the Devs were like that, however, P99 would have died years ago.

There is a reason why Amazon Web Services is so popular. Most people prefer someone else to handle all of the headaches that go in to server management. But of course you could be paying quite a lot on AWS based on usage.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is a reason why Amazon Web Services is so popular. Most people prefer someone else to handle all of the headaches that go in to server management. But of course you could be paying quite a lot on AWS based on usage.

This is true, but Rogean does it "old school", without AWS or any other cloud provider: he actually used to post pics (back in the days when he posted) of the P99 servers themselves.

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is true, but Rogean does it "old school", without AWS or any other cloud provider: he actually used to post pics (back in the days when he posted) of the P99 servers themselves.

Interesting, did you save any of the photos or wiki link?

https://twitter.com/vharron/status/970753675386765313

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Mblake1981 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interesting, did you save any of the photos or wiki link?

https://twitter.com/vharron/status/970753675386765313

If you wade through all the posts Rogean ever has made, you should find one with the photos of the server ... but I'm too lazy to do that (and given the weakness of this forum's search feature, I think you'll have to wade through them all to find it).

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is true, but Rogean does it "old school", without AWS or any other cloud provider: he actually used to post pics (back in the days when he posted) of the P99 servers themselves.

Oh yes, I understand that P99 is done the old school way, which is much more difficult to maintain. I simply brought up AWS because it's existence is proof of the difficulty of handling your own server. If it was so easy to do it yourself, AWS wouldn't be that popular.

[Dolalin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Saying it doesn't cost a lot to run a game server with 1000+ people on it is silly..

You can get the hardware to run a p99 for under $1k. My eqarchives indexer box could probably do it if I set up raid storage. I'm guessing that's going to be the biggest expense/maintenance issue. Right now I just do a weekly Google drive backup of the VM image.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Dolalin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can get the hardware to run a p99 for under $1k. My eqarchives indexer box could probably do it if I set up raid storage. I'm guessing that's going to be the biggest expense/maintenance issue. Right now I just do a weekly Google drive backup of the VM image.

You should read the rest of the post. I wasn't claiming it is guaranteed to be a ton of money to run the server, that heavily depends on a bunch of factors. The effort comes with maintaining the server, stability, developing new code, watching for cheaters/RMTers, managing a dev team and GMs, etc. Time is more important than money, and that is a cost.

Running a stable game server as a service while actively developing is not the same as running your portfolio website on your own server in the corner of your room hehe.

[Castle2.0]

I googled it to silence the idiots (cd 288, et. all)

Originally Posted by Nightrider84

Honestly, I run my server on a single core 1.6ghz with 3gb of ram and an old 5400rpm HDD. And honest it runs fine even with alot of accounts logged in at once. You can get a 120gb ssd for literally 20 dollars online. I'd invest in the ssd. As far as storage goes 120 would be plenty.

Source: http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42316

Originally Posted by Nightrider84

Yeah man it doesn't take much to run a server. I've got mine running on a single core 1.6ghz 3gb ram laptop with 5400rpm hdd. And I can run it with 50 zones easily

Source: http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=40228

Originally Posted by Maze_EQ

literally can run it with 2gb ram
dual core pentium
and 25gb hdd

Source: http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41749

I'll stop there. Try google, friends. It's amazing!

What does such a VPS cost? GOOGLE SAVES THE DAY AGAIN!

	
	

			
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[cd288]

Originally Posted by Castle2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I googled it to silence the idiots (cd 288, et. all)


Source: http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42316


Source: http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=40228


Source: http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41749

I'll stop there. Try google, friends. It's amazing!

What does such a VPS cost? GOOGLE SAVES THE DAY AGAIN!

Oh so you did a ton of research to tell us that Rogean hasn’t ever told you how much it costs him to run P99? Solid post

[Castle2.0]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh so you did a ton of research to tell us that Rogean hasn’t ever told you how much it costs him to run P99? Solid post

Sorry your brain doesn't work and you don't know how to abstract or extrapolate.

Or, just too proud to admit you were wrong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Probably the second [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"You don't know what I pay for my vehicle registration! You only know what everyone else pays... huehuehue."