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Old 11-19-2021, 01:44 PM
Cecily Cecily is offline
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I think you may arguing from a sportsmanship perspective (we all agreed to these rules GG) vs my preferred sociopathic RPG experience (these rules allow me to harm you). I conflate the two because they're very hard to separate and there's going to be elements of both in anyone who can tolerate a PVP MMO. It's like... There's rules everyone agrees to, but their reason for opting into that ruleset are more way interesting.
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Old 11-19-2021, 12:32 PM
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I never intentionally kill anyone. The only times I really go for the killshot is when I'm outnumber and there's really no way out.

Usually if its a 1v1 honor duel or something I just joust until they win or I get them low enough they will concede, in that case I help bandage them up and either help them exp or go on their way.

Not everyone that pvps is a complete monster.
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Old 11-19-2021, 12:34 PM
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I never intentionally kill anyone. The only times I really go for the killshot is when I'm outnumber and there's really no way out.

Usually if its a 1v1 honor duel or something I just joust until they win or I get them low enough they will concede, in that case I help bandage them up and either help them exp or go on their way.

Not everyone that pvps is a complete monster.
1 more caveat, if I'm with a team, then I'm defending my team and it's my duty to kill the hostile aggressors, I usually support my group, even if say I group with <Guild Killaz> one day and <Guild Flower Children> the next I will switch sides, I'm loyal to my guild mates in the moment.

Rarely go out of my way to travel across the world denying pixels tho to another guild or anything like that I just like goofin.

There is no reason you have to play pvp like it's DKP dragon kill quest FTE lawyerworld. You can pvp without fighting. Like you do in pvE and all the time with your rules. And GMs and Elfcourts.
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Old 11-19-2021, 12:57 PM
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Not everyone that pvps is a complete monster.
My group did encounter one of these monsters when trying red. Just hanging out killin stuff in MM GY, a lv 30 or 35 troll SK with a Reaver and prenerf CoS started attacking us. It was truly amazing to see a high-end EQ1 pvp'er in action. None of us had see invis so he was phasing in and out of existence with the CoS and swingin that reaver. Was really cool to see. Killed us quick. One groupmate called that loot n scoot but still grouped in MM killing mobs. I get that rules are rules, but that SK went full tard in general chat about loot n scoot and that the person was breaking the rules etc. After all that none of us logged in again and alas, the red population went from 40 to 36.

Thank you to the druid with the flower name for tryin tho.
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Old 11-19-2021, 01:08 PM
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My group did encounter one of these monsters when trying red. Just hanging out killin stuff in MM GY, a lv 30 or 35 troll SK with a Reaver and prenerf CoS started attacking us. It was truly amazing to see a high-end EQ1 pvp'er in action. None of us had see invis so he was phasing in and out of existence with the CoS and swingin that reaver. Was really cool to see. Killed us quick. One groupmate called that loot n scoot but still grouped in MM killing mobs. I get that rules are rules, but that SK went full tard in general chat about loot n scoot and that the person was breaking the rules etc. After all that none of us logged in again and alas, the red population went from 40 to 36.

Thank you to the druid with the flower name for tryin tho.
I agree red be like that especially after all these years there's like permanently 10 players there that is all they are locked into, they tunnel vision into that mode of gameplay.

That exists in greater numbers on blue and green though, just in different ways (in my opinion).

My takeaway - ignore those people, eventually they will go away or you will overpower them.

There are permantly worn see invis items and stuff. Consider him the dragonlord of MM - back in the day item loot would have even rewarded you for teaming up and defeating him eventually, it is possible. Some people have absolutely no sense of sportsmanship and can't bother not to use their superpowers or toys. These demons exist everywhere. At least with pvp ya'll can get bracers of the hidden or those helms with truesight and stuff and go back and get him on either a de-leveled toon or alt twinks. It happens, and it's glorious when it does.

I'm not a particularly vengeful person, a lot of people don't want to spend that much effort just to win or do something in MM and I also respect that. I have spent an equal number of nights in MM by myself, and an equal number out maneuvering these guys as well though. Play the game how you want. Some people enjoy that challenge too.
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Old 11-19-2021, 01:53 PM
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I never intentionally kill anyone. The only times I really go for the killshot is when I'm outnumber and there's really no way out.

Usually if its a 1v1 honor duel or something I just joust until they win or I get them low enough they will concede, in that case I help bandage them up and either help them exp or go on their way.

Not everyone that pvps is a complete monster.
Lol. That's so fucking lame. This guy wouldn't 1v1 my friend because he was buffed and a strong PVP class vs knights. I was a dark elf assassin dagger type with very low stun resistance, so the knight thought he had an easy fight when I challenged him after he told me to just sit there and look pretty. I was fully buffed and smoked him in a few seconds 1v1 with my friends watching. Honor was always flexible concept for my rogues.
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Old 11-19-2021, 08:43 PM
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What can I say. I'm all bark. No bite. And a softy. I don't like deliberately toying with people too much either. Though I've been known to engage in their mind games when posting.

Whats important about sportsmanship for me is that I'm doing it. If I can't be bothered to fight someone or share or help them or w/e I'll just /q. And play an alt. I've left my character logged in before so it could be piņata 'd before too.

I try not to be too judgey anymore if people want to race to a mob or hunt me down on their alts anymore. That's how I try to approach every situation anyway because that's how I want to be. Can't say I always FEEL like it. Most of the time. It's nice to see other people win. Provide a challenge or friendship. Or at least a speedbump. That's pvp and pve for me.

My ranger on green has spent all week at lvl 10. If I wanted, I could have turned off pvp. Shoved my gnoll teeth into some npc. Bought a combine longsword. Spent 24 hrs grinding GLS and made lvl 25 by now.

I rather enjoyed meeting all the different folks hanging out around bb though.

Fought a mage today.

They were going to win. A bear agroed their pet though, and they had to run. I left the fight with like 1% hp and followed Holly Windstalker to safety at the jaggedpine entrance. Tbh. They could probably have resummoned snipes me and ran. They let me live this time though. We chatted a bit and I rambled about how I would have beaten their pet if I had bothered to upgrade my sword from rusty.

They actually are doing this challenge before I even did the pvp thing. So that's a pretty cool synchronicity. They want to level with no outside help and no twinking or items from outside of their group. I thought that was cool. And I waxxed nostalgiac for my red99 mage I'll probably never play again. Who knows though?
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Old 11-20-2021, 11:10 AM
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Mala not malo
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Old 11-20-2021, 05:05 PM
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That Mage epic pet tho is much better than any necro pet
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Old 11-20-2021, 11:08 PM
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Necros are the best class to play and have the most diverse abilities.
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