whole lotta vaccine injuries

[starkind]

military dictatorship is the only way if you aren't in the military u die

[Gravydoo II]

To join the military you gotta get vaccinated. LOL

[nostalgiaquest]

^^
This guy needs to get high

[Midfrost]

Originally Posted by nostalgiaquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^^
This guy needs to get high

That didn't go as you had intended.
Alas, I'm quite literally sat here with a joint between my lips as I'm writing these words.
But you're right, I need to get higher, "ascension" is the name of the game, baby. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Disclaimer: Cannabis cannot achieve for any one individual the experience of ascension, "Kanebosm" is merely a tool with which vastly different frequential fields may find common ground. Kind-of like the honorable & ancient indigenous' "peace pipe".

[robayon]

... Is that a defense of for-profit healthcare?

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

... Is that a defense of for-profit healthcare?

Just a statement of fact. Maybe anecdotal, but for every job I’ve had that offered healthcare plans, I had a tier of choices and the knowledge of what my deductible would be ahead of time. I made the choice on what part of my paycheck I would sacrifice based on what deductible I could afford and how much I anticipated needing to use it

It was simply not possible for me to be sidelined with some shocking “you got in a car accident and now you owe the hospital $30,000!” because that’s not how deductibles work

It’s still (I recently checked this) not possible to be disqualified due to pre-existing conditions, so that’s not a thing anymore. And I’ve never had something deemed not covered. If a doctor ordered it, it was considered medically necessary. Nor have I heard of others reporting this. I’m not saying it’s not possible, but I personally don’t think this is occurring frequently

Our current healthcare is a mix of for-profit and socialized. I have yet to see a proposition that can create the trillions of dollars we would need to provide free healthcare for everyone in America (I’m aware other countries have completely socialized medicine tho). Obviously if I thought it was possible to give everyone free healthcare without any negatives (because negatives can sometimes come with this, I’ve heard), I’d be all for it

If you have a proposal on how it can be done based on how X country does it, I’ve probably heard it before, and tbh wouldn’t delve to deep into it

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Our current healthcare is a mix of for-profit and socialized. I have yet to see a proposition that can create the trillions of dollars we would need to provide free healthcare for everyone in America (I’m aware other countries have completely socialized medicine tho). Obviously if I thought it was possible to give everyone free healthcare without any negatives (because negatives can sometimes come with this, I’ve heard), I’d be all for it.

There's no road from here to there that doesn't involve ruining a whole lotta lives.

I liked Butt's idea best - medicare for all who want it. Two birds with one stone, IYKWIM. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just a statement of fact. Maybe anecdotal, but for every job I’ve had that offered healthcare plans, I had a tier of choices and the knowledge of what my deductible would be ahead of time. I made the choice on what part of my paycheck I would sacrifice based on what deductible I could afford and how much I anticipated needing to use it

It was simply not possible for me to be sidelined with some shocking “you got in a car accident and now you owe the hospital $30,000!” because that’s not how deductibles work

It’s still (I recently checked this) not possible to be disqualified due to pre-existing conditions, so that’s not a thing anymore. And I’ve never had something deemed not covered. If a doctor ordered it, it was considered medically necessary. Nor have I heard of others reporting this. I’m not saying it’s not possible, but I personally don’t think this is occurring frequently

Our current healthcare is a mix of for-profit and socialized. I have yet to see a proposition that can create the trillions of dollars we would need to provide free healthcare for everyone in America (I’m aware other countries have completely socialized medicine tho). Obviously if I thought it was possible to give everyone free healthcare without any negatives (because negatives can sometimes come with this, I’ve heard), I’d be all for it

If you have a proposal on how it can be done based on how X country does it, I’ve probably heard it before, and tbh wouldn’t delve to deep into it

Fortunately friend life is all about trade offs! I just choose to coexist simultaneously within the world where healthcare is extremely expensive and intrinsically tied to your work which I believe gives us the best healthcare professionals in the world, as well as the world in which I distrust those same medical professionals I put in that position because of their for-profit mindset!

There is no alternative! We need to keep them for-profit so we can distrust them for being for-profit! If they weren't, what would I need all these shaman for?! I wake up every morning and give myself finger-guns in the mirror an a quick wink before I sip my morning coffee and sit down for work!

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fortunately friend life is all about trade offs! I just choose to coexist simultaneously within the world where healthcare is extremely expensive and intrinsically tied to your work which I believe gives us the best healthcare professionals in the world, as well as the world in which I distrust those same medical professionals I put in that position because of their for-profit mindset!

There is no alternative! We need to keep them for-profit so we can distrust them for being for-profit! If they weren't, what would I need all these shaman for?! I wake up every morning and give myself finger-guns in the mirror an a quick wink before I sip my morning coffee and sit down for work!

Oh I don’t trust doctors all that much either. Occasionally wrong, sometimes in a life threatening way, and almost always a condescending cunt (in my experience with them). With you on that one. But I still will take their advice over webmd. And my last surgery I had a month ago to put my elbow ulnar nerve back in place I simply couldn’t do on myself with 1 arm, even if I had a video guide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the costs of healthcare seem pretty crazy in the US, so you don’t want to be without insurance. If you weren’t working and had no income, you’d definitely want to sign up for your state’s Medicaid. And if you have income but work isn’t offering an insurance, you definitely want to go to the insurance marketplace and pick one. You never want to get saddled with an out of pocket cost. Luckily there are usually options like what I mentioned to prevent this

In regards to alternatives, there’s completely socialized medicine. And Medicaid is fuckin amazing, I’d love to have that be for everyone. I just don’t see it as possible, expense-wise

[robayon]

You and I have had wildly different experiences with what I assume to be American healthcare