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Old 09-01-2021, 04:35 PM
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How many hospitals have been overwhelmed since the beginning of the pandemic? None. It is a non-issue. I understand why it was a concern at the beginning, the virus was new and we didn't understand it's nature yet, but now that simply isn't an issue.

I'm not sure I understand your other points. They just sound like more appeals to authority. Experts can be wrong, laymen can be right.


You said none.

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/19/10293...navirus-states


You are wrong. Very wrong. Go eat horse paste.

You can also use this link to see how many hospitals around you have ZERO beds.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-near-you.html

Not that you would ever check then prove yourself wrong. Because, thats just not the christian/republican way. Believe what you're told by youtube, dont ACTUALLY check a hopsital.
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You said none.
Not that you would ever check then prove yourself wrong. Because, thats just not the christian/republican way. Believe what you're told by youtube, dont ACTUALLY check a hopsital.
Firstly NPR has a ridiculously left wing bias. Secondly none of the hospitals around me are even remotely close to being out of beds. Thirdly I'm not a christian or a republican. You have a cartoonish generic charicature in your head of anyone who is the slightest bit out of line with your far left orthodox secular religion.

I believe in science, and part of science is skepticism and rigorous cross checking. People keep talking about the importance of science, but then when a scientist goes against the prevailing narrative they're banned and shunned. That is the opposite of science.

Also notice how the discourse around covid has now shifted to "case numbers" rather than deaths, because almost nobody who gets covid dies. They need that panic porn, so now it's OMG ten billion new cases today! Great, who cares, it's barely killing anybody. 99.5% survival rate.
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My workplace is about 90% liberal (behavioral health) and interestingly enough, the last report said only 35% of workplace has gotten the vaccine. We have a significant amount of black employees, only one of which has told me he trusts the vaccine enough to have gotten it (two others I’ve worked with said they didn’t)

Rather than fire people for not having it like Banner hospital is doing, my work is doing a raffle where you enter by submitting your vaccine card with a chance to win $2,500. Not sure if this is going to do anything to increase our % of vaccinated employees

Still, it’s a better idea than firing employees for not having it. Not like our work could lose 65% of their employees anyway and still function
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Old 08-31-2021, 02:29 PM
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trolling p99 is pretty weaksauce imo

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Old 08-31-2021, 09:04 PM
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I have a question for you guys, I seriously dont think any of you could possibly succeed

Id like to compare the vaccinated death numbers for these months, versus unvaccinated numbers for these months:

May:
June:
July:
Aug:

I was curious, but couldn't find it because we live in a prison.
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Old 08-31-2021, 09:08 PM
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I have a question for you guys, I seriously dont think any of you could possibly succeed

Id like to compare the vaccinated death numbers for these months, versus unvaccinated numbers for these months:

May:
June:
July:
Aug:

I was curious, but couldn't find it because we live in a prison.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-vaccines.html

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Old 09-01-2021, 10:02 AM
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That's...not an answer to what he was asking for lol
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That's...not an answer to what he was asking for lol
Phew I was like, am I just too dumb to understand?

It’s crazy to me that I can’t find this info easily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-01-2021, 11:11 AM
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Phew I was like, am I just too dumb to understand?

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Here you go Jiblet

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TABLE. Number of SARS-CoV-2 cases among persons aged ≥16 years, by selected characteristics and vaccination status* — Los Angeles County, California,† May 1–July 25, 2021Return to your place in the text
Characteristic Vaccination status, no. (%) p-value
Total Fully vaccinated Partially vaccinated Unvaccinated
Total no. of cases 43,127 10,895 1,431 30,801 —
Vaccine manufacturer
Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) — 1,830 (16.8) — — —
Moderna — 3,047 (28.0) — — —
Pfizer-BioNTech — 6,018 (55.2) — — —
Median interval between final vaccine dose and infection, no. of days (IQR) — 98 (74–120) — — —
Median age, yrs (IQR) 34 (26–46) 37 (28–52) 35 (27–51) 32 (26–44) <0.001
Age group, yrs
16–17 1,120 (2.6) 107 (1.0) 34 (2.4) 979 (3.2) <0.001
18–29 14,758 (34.2) 3,017 (27.7) 432 (30.2) 11,309 (36.7)
30–49 18,106 (42.0) 4,649 (42.7) 582 (40.7) 12,875 (41.8)
50–64 6,418 (14.9) 2,025 (18.6) 255 (17.8) 4,138 (13.4)
65–79 2,101 (4.9) 857 (7.9) 95 (6.6) 1,149 (3.7)
≥80 624 (1.4) 240 (2.2) 33 (2.3) 351 (1.1)
Sex
Female 21,743 (50.4) 5,514 (50.6) 757 (52.9) 15,472 (50.2) <0.001
Male 20,425 (47.4) 5,249 (48.2) 659 (46.1) 14,517 (47.1)
Other or unknown 959 (2.2) 132 (1.2) 15 (1.0) 812 (2.6)
Race/Ethnicity
American Indian or Alaska Native 70 (0.2) 17 (0.2) 2 (0.1) 51 (0.2) <0.001
Asian 1,970 (4.6) 905 (8.3) 104 (7.3) 961 (3.1)
Black or African American 5,574 (12.9) 681 (6.3) 138 (9.6) 4,755 (15.4)
Hispanic or Latino 14,144 (32.8) 3,450 (31.7) 511 (35.7) 10,183 (33.1)
Multiple race 823 (1.9) 272 (2.5) 32 (2.2) 519 (1.7)
Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander 210 (0.5) 41 (0.4) 8 (0.6) 161 (0.5)
Other 3,998 (9.3) 778 (7.1) 112 (7.8) 3,108 (10.1)
White 9,338 (21.7) 3,397 (31.2) 321 (22.4) 5,620 (18.2)
Missing 7,000 (16.2) 1,354 (12.4) 203 (14.2) 5,443 (17.7)
Hospitalized 2,794 (6.5) 350 (3.2) 89 (6.2) 2,355 (7.6) <0.001
Admitted to ICU 536 (1.2) 55 (0.5) 15 (1.0) 466 (1.5) <0.001
Required mechanical ventilation 189 (0.4) 19 (0.2) 5 (0.3) 165 (0.5) <0.001
Admitted to hospital after positive SARS-CoV-2 test date 1,454 (3.4) 136 (1.2) 29 (2.0) 1,289 (4.2) <0.001
Died 207 (0.5) 24 (0.2) 7 (0.5) 176 (0.6) <0.001
I searched "cdc vaccinated deaths may 2021"
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Old 08-31-2021, 09:47 PM
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Doesnt take any of it seriously for years.

Now, complains that vaccines are not keeping up with the rapidly changing virus.

Now its mutated in serveral different strands.

Now you want protection from the different strands that particular vaccine was not designed to handle.

"more people died that were vaccinated than non-vaccinated"

So the vaccine that works for the non-delta variant, isnt working for the delta variant. Yeah... kinda like how an ankle brace doesnt support your wrists.
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