It's official: Riot is done.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by hobart [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Detoxx has a ten year history of liking agreements when his guild is dominating and then suddenly calling for changes to the rules when it is losing. He hated racing when he didn't have Furor. Now I bet he loves it! Why the change of heart?

In this way, he never negotiates in good faith. To expect anything different back is dumb.

And I can tell you don't get it either. Why was the insance Zerg meta something that needed to be overcome? Because AM was losing, duh.

Wrong. Never once did I get racing changed, Ive always liked racing.

[hobart]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wrong. Never once did I get racing changed, Ive always liked racing.

No, you just tried to get AGs cheater banned. What was his name again?

[xdrcfrx]

Originally Posted by Twochain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We obviously don’t want to change the meta to something as bergzerg as camping 100 toons at each dragon, but laying out guidelines to not have to insta concede tracker fte should be a no brainer.

While we’re at it, what the hell was the deal with the “there are more guilds than just vanquish on the server” when we offered to let Riot compete against us for otherwise completely free mobs? Okay fine you can claim that we are trying to do away with bag limits, but Jesus Christ come on.. we were trying to show, in good faith, that we’re not just pixel lusting bloodhounds, and that we would rather possibly lose a completely free mob and allow Riot to go compete against us, as for most of us we play this game for the spirit of competition, not the loot. “God” reacts. Really???? Like fuckin really? I don’t even know how that’s a response. Like yeah, we know there’s more than one guild on the server, we’re trying to let them have a chance at something they otherwise wouldn’t be able to touch due to bag limits.

tracker FTE = immediate concede is a good rule because it removes any and all ambiguity into what the result should be. no need to figure out if you interfered with a raid, or trained anyone, or anything else. were you beyond the race line? if yes, automatic concession. remember which bots are where, don't be bad.

re: you second paragraph: bag limits aren't between guilds, they are a server rule. it's not up to you all to decide if you want to offer the ability to skirt that rule. acting like you have the right to decide that is another example of your guild's outsize arrogance, which, quelle surprise, people don't like.

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by xdrcfrx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tracker FTE = immediate concede is a good rule because it removes any and all ambiguity into what the result should be. no need to figure out if you interfered with a raid, or trained anyone, or anything else. were you beyond the race line? if yes, automatic concession. remember which bots are where, don't be bad.

re: you second paragraph: bag limits aren't between guilds, they are a server rule. it's not up to you all to decide if you want to offer the ability to skirt that rule. acting like you have the right to decide that is another example of your guild's outsize arrogance, which, quelle surprise, people don't like.

Well it was worded in such a way as, IF the gm's are okay with it we're okay with it.

[Nexii]

What's to stop a tracker from pulling and gating or capping when a secondary is ready to pick up a legal FTE?

[Ripqozko]

All of this could be solved with lockouts, hope that helps.

[Nexii]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All of this could be solved with lockouts, hope that helps.

Agree exclusive lock era was way better than this garbage meta where you need 100+ players

[Tunabros]

Anyone able to fill me up on what happened to <Riot>?

Didn't they used to be the most powerful raid guild for a few years? What happened?

And why do they keep lawyer questing and why does Vanquish keep complaining?

[condap99]

Originally Posted by Tunabros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone able to fill me up on what happened to <Riot>?

Didn't they used to be the most powerful raid guild for a few years? What happened?

And why do they keep lawyer questing and why does Vanquish keep complaining?

They are lawyerquesting because Riot leadership isn't any good at actual everquest, and gets shit on every time they play the game. So rather than try to be competitive in Everquest, they try to be competitive in Discord.

[Tunabros]

no bias/hate answers only