p99 at lowest point since launch

[Bhairava]

Originally Posted by Twochain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Raiding on p99 is the only form of Competitive PVE there is. You wouldn't know because you are a noob. Hope this helps.


To be fair I kind of like the golem races/the draft. Golems in 2021 on p99 blue = WHATEVER. And it's a great opportunity for new raiders to engage a mob live. Everyone has to get their first hit somewhere.

Ring War roll = whatever, click quest was fucking stupid at scout and it was stupid at ring war. I'd prefer to see a race instead but it's literally whatever. Ring War 2021.

Rooted Dragons is =(

Bag limits are probably the only thing that is making ToV a non 1-guild affair at the moment. (Which is a product of rooted dragons- there would always be two guilds competing if they were pull-able. Vulak can be killed with 30 people if he can be pulled, but requires AT LEAST 60 people who know exactly what they are doing to do it competitively)

1 Guild raiding is very very boring. I would never show up to any raid if there wasn't somebody else to beat. There is nothing challenging about killing dragons in Velious 6 years in, it's the other guilds that provide the challenge to beat.

Overall, it's not bad. I'm having fun.

ok

[Kijuta]

Originally Posted by Twochain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Raiding on p99 is the only form of Competitive PVE there is. You wouldn't know because you are a noob.

1 Guild raiding is very very boring. I would never show up to any raid if there wasn't somebody else to beat. There is nothing challenging about killing dragons in Velious 6 years in, it's the other guilds that provide the challenge to beat..

It's crazy to see the die hard people that live in EQ are still at it from YEAAARS ago. This Twochain guy is the iconic definition of an elitest toxic personality. That nonsense existed back in original EQ and next to NO one cared for it. Competition in EQ, the very notion of that is a bad joke. To even claim this game was remotely designed for it is beyond delusional. You want "competition" in an old school MMO that's fairly simple, go play on a PVP server, thats literally your "ACTUAL COMPETITION". <~Not seeing who can bogart all the raid loot to one guild(that is NOT competition, thats a fact)..

It's insane seeing how some of the player base speak to each other in these forums. It's sure as hell not how i remember EQ. It's always had people on edge and a bit too tense. But now it seems you have this type that wants "competition"(aka, bogarting npc's) and those that want to give snarky remarks about people who don't live in a 20+ year old game.. As if they should be knowledgeable about the game in the way you are, like wtf people?

To end my rant, thank you to those that are actual pillars to this community. The servers LITERALLY need it. Otherwise people like twochain and the other naysayer's to people enjoying the game, would of killed it loooong before any dev or GM would.

[SantagarBrax]

Originally Posted by Kijuta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's crazy to see the die hard people that live in EQ are still at it from YEAAARS ago. This Twochain guy is the iconic definition of an elitest toxic personality. That nonsense existed back in original EQ and next to NO one cared for it. Competition in EQ, the very notion of that is a bad joke. To even claim this game was remotely designed for it is beyond delusional. You want "competition" in an old school MMO that's fairly simple, go play on a PVP server, thats literally your "ACTUAL COMPETITION". <~Not seeing who can bogart all the raid loot to one guild(that is NOT competition, thats a fact)..

You just don't understand it, therefore you criticize it. Pretty standard operating procedures from those that believe as you do.

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by Kijuta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's crazy to see the die hard people that live in EQ are still at it from YEAAARS ago. This Twochain guy is the iconic definition of an elitest toxic personality. That nonsense existed back in original EQ and next to NO one cared for it. Competition in EQ, the very notion of that is a bad joke. To even claim this game was remotely designed for it is beyond delusional. You want "competition" in an old school MMO that's fairly simple, go play on a PVP server, thats literally your "ACTUAL COMPETITION". <~Not seeing who can bogart all the raid loot to one guild(that is NOT competition, thats a fact)..

It's insane seeing how some of the player base speak to each other in these forums. It's sure as hell not how i remember EQ. It's always had people on edge and a bit too tense. But now it seems you have this type that wants "competition"(aka, bogarting npc's) and those that want to give snarky remarks about people who don't live in a 20+ year old game.. As if they should be knowledgeable about the game in the way you are, like wtf people?

To end my rant, thank you to those that are actual pillars to this community. The servers LITERALLY need it. Otherwise people like twochain and the other naysayer's to people enjoying the game, would of killed it loooong before any dev or GM would.

You would be hard pressed to find somebody who has been more welcoming and helpful to new players than myself, Friend.

[Naethyn]

The most vocal supporters of "competition" almost always just want to lord over pixels. Every single one of the systems outlined above are keeping more raid entities in the game.

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The most vocal supporters of "competition" almost always just want to lord over pixels. Every single one of the systems outlined above are keeping more raid entities in the game.

Not I Sir. I really wouldn't raid much otherwise. I struggle to have over a 10% RA now as it is. If a vyemm pop is literally just cothing to aary steps, killing 8 trash mobs, and killing vyemm.... that's terrible. I'd have way more fun playing my enchanter and killing 5 mobs at once. There's nothing enticing about a tank and spank, performing all of those tasks above under a time constraint and with the added pressure of performing the best that you can because if you mess up, you'll train the other guild and have to concede, or lose the mob for your guild is what makes showing up to raids worthwhile. There are a lot of people who feel the same way.

The months long bans of AW back in those days was BORING as hell.

[Rick Sanchez]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The most vocal supporters of "competition" almost always just want to lord over pixels. Every single one of the systems outlined above are keeping more raid entities in the game.

[Baler]

OP did not get pixels

[adruidarkly]

Unsurprising. A competition of simply who has the most anytime players is not a competition many enjoy. Real classic competition is choosing which targets you will not get more than which you will. The competition therefor is in execution speed and mobility.

With the window system, it lays it up for who can sit around all day and not function. Therefor, the prizes aren't worth the wait.

[pogs4ever]

It’s not worth the time to log in and get trAined for an hour. Braknar was right all along.