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Old 08-08-2021, 07:08 PM
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Horza have you been vaccinated?
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:12 PM
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Virgins dont need vaccines
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:15 PM
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Nancy Pelosi doesn't date unvaxxed soyboys so of course hes had his two.
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:23 PM
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If it's not CNN/MSNBC Horza won't believe you
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:32 PM
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Anyone can report events to VAERS (vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html) and a disclaimer on the website of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says: “The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable.”

When downloading the data, users are presented with a further disclaimer that the data does not include information from investigations into reported cases. The disclaimer also says “the inclusion of events in VAERS data does not imply causality.”
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:51 PM
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“The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable.”
If you want find people dying within a day or two of getting their vaccine to be unrelated, that's up to you. The vaccine trials had so few deaths in either group, since they picked young and healthy people, that we can't know anything for sure. But I hope you apply that same rigor to covid cases! After all, according to the CDC 94% of covid 'deaths' have some level of comorbidity, and the CDC is now officially withdrawing the PCR test, which is where all those 'cases' came from.

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Everything we do on communicable disease control is a numbers game with the primary goal of keeping the system running. I'd be fine if all of you conspiracy theorists would stay at home and get better (or die) if you get sick. But the minute you start wheezing you come to the hospital and shit it up for everyone.
I am not wheezing at the emergency room - in fact I have not been to the ER in decades. I am feeling just fine as I type this on my computer. Go outside. There are no bodies. The terror is only on TV. You don't have to live like this.

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You're not a epidemiologist, virologist, or anyone else with any expertise. In fact, you're a Trumptard which counts for less than zero. Why do you not value expertise?
First, you KNOW that I am not a 'Trumptard'. I got off the Trump bandwagon at least two years ago. Quite frankly anyone who is still on is not paying attention: Trump developed these lethal vaccines. Those 100K deaths are on him as much as Biden. He also scammed $250 million out of his supporters to 'contest the election' which he is just keeping. Second, I do not value expertise because it is easily purchased. The pharmaceutical companies control where research dollars go, so the scientists line up to give them whatever results they want. In fact the more I learn the lower my opinion of human expertise goes.

You desperately need to watch the original video. Your mind is under attack by the mass media. All you have to do is let go of the panic and look at things logically. 0.25% death rate under 65. Lower if you are not obese. Come back to reality, pal. Let facebook and twitter and CNN go.
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Old 08-08-2021, 08:02 PM
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If you want find people dying within a day or two of getting their vaccine to be unrelated, that's up to you. The vaccine trials had so few deaths in either group, since they picked young and healthy people, that we can't know anything for sure. But I hope you apply that same rigor to covid cases! After all, according to the CDC 94% of covid 'deaths' have some level of comorbidity, and the CDC is now officially withdrawing the PCR test, which is where all those 'cases' came from.
I guess you missed the disclaimer that says the data may contain information that is unverifiable and doesn't imply causality.
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Old 08-08-2021, 11:36 PM
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Second, I do not value expertise because it is easily purchased.
Yes. There are ~75K medical professionals with doctorate degrees and/or MDs in the US and Western Europe alone in specialties specific to this case. Virology, epidemiology, etc. They've all been bought and paid for. All of them. And that doesn't count all the hospital workers, nurses, and other professionals with certificates in pulmonology or respiratory therapy, or the related fields, as well as all the academics in the institutions that teach them. Now, let's include the PharmDs and all the people that train and teach them. They're all bought and paid for by big pharma?

Jesus fucking christ you're a moron.
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Old 08-08-2021, 11:43 PM
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Yes. There are ~75K medical professionals with doctorate degrees and/or MDs in the US and Western Europe alone in specialties specific to this case. Virology, epidemiology, etc. They've all been bought and paid for. All of them. And that doesn't count all the hospital workers, nurses, and other professionals with certificates in pulmonology or respiratory therapy, or the related fields, as well as all the academics in the institutions that teach them. Now, let's include the PharmDs and all the people that train and teach them. They're all bought and paid for by big pharma?

Jesus fucking christ you're a moron.
Who said all of them? You're putting words in his mouth. Let's compromise: *some* of them.

Also covid is not very dangerous if you get it you have an overwhelmingly high probability of surviving, and long term side effects are exceedingly rare by all available current data. If you're not willing to act this way about the standard seasonal flu, which also kills people, you're being totally inconsistent.

I can respect somebody who says "Yes, we SHOULD do the same things for the flu" because at least you're being consistent. Absolutely zero people have had a good answer to this basic question.
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Old 08-09-2021, 12:03 AM
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Also covid is not very dangerous if you get it you have an overwhelmingly high probability of surviving
Thanks, in part, to the hospital system they are burdening by not getting a simple effective vaccine.

Our closest hospital has over 100 beds, but a max capacity of ~30 something for critical patients because they can't find people who want to work in this shit show. They've been on drive-by status several times in the last couple of months, and we live in a sane place with high vaccination rates.

Ironically, it's the Trumptards from the surrounding counties that are shitting up our beds because their hospitals are full. Want to guess why?

So it's not just about COVID. Do you want to go to the hospital with appendicitis and have the entire ER staff on doubles and the surgeon overworked? And if something goes wrong, do you want to be competing with Jethro for an ICU bed or a ventilator because he was too fucking stupid to get vaccinated?

When the system gets overwhelmed, people die at a higher rate than they do when it is not overwhelmed. Period. It's so easy to understand...
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