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Old 05-09-2021, 03:53 PM
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I don't remember specifics from live besides the epic pet being much better for all the effects plus the massive hp pool. That said, I'm not sure why a max lvl 49 earth would hit for just 2 less than the max lvl 56/7 earth or the same as the low 50's version. That's pretty horrible scaling even for pets...lvl 44 to 49 is a 8 max hit difference.

EoT hits for up to 62 unfocused so 4 more than the same class/level mage pet. Plus lifetap. Plus fear immunity. Pretty solid trade-off for a slightly smaller hp pool (vs the earth).

I know we all have our opinions and revel in the nerfing of others. P99 is a salty place.
The logic of this doesn't seem to hold up though. I expect it's not intended or GM's will clarify shortly.
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Old 05-09-2021, 04:45 PM
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Emissary of Thule is not supposed to dual wield in the P99 timeline, just triple attack (rarely). Is it dual wielding / quadding on P99? That wasn't added till Luclin.

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I am pretty certain that the Spectre pet does not Dual Wield. Most I have ever seen it hit is triples. It does certainly not both dual wield and triple attack since that would mean that it gets occasional quintuplets (5 hits at once).

Never ever seen it do more than 3 attacks at once. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] My bet is that they removed dual wield from the spec and replaced it with gay triple attack skill, making our pet, not a warrior, but more like a shadowknight without spells.

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Old 05-09-2021, 06:46 PM
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Emissary of Thule is not supposed to dual wield in the P99 timeline, just triple attack (rarely). Is it dual wielding / quadding on P99? That wasn't added till Luclin.
No idea, I don’t necro. Assumed it was a standard DW/double pet. Thought only Sham dogs don’t DW. Shows what I know [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].
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Old 05-10-2021, 04:47 AM
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Until late Luclin you couldn't hand armor/weapons to spec pets, they just ate it:

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SEPTEMBER 4, 2002

* Changed Specter pets so they're able to equip items and armor.

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20020904.html
Spec pets spawned with a no rent 2h scythe to keep them from dual wielding. It was a balance thing. They would only triple attack. Most necros rolled with the 56 monk pet in groups since its dps was higher and it could still tank okay.

So if that's missing on P99 it should be addressed.
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Old 05-10-2021, 10:51 AM
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Until late Luclin you couldn't hand armor/weapons to spec pets, they just ate it:



Spec pets spawned with a no rent 2h scythe to keep them from dual wielding. It was a balance thing. They would only triple attack. Most necros rolled with the 56 monk pet in groups since its dps was higher and it could still tank okay.

So if that's missing on P99 it should be addressed.
I don't know about you, but I don't exactly expect Necros to go out testing this, or reporting back if it's broken...
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Old 05-10-2021, 11:53 AM
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I don't know about you, but I don't exactly expect Necros to go out testing this, or reporting back if it's broken...
The Necromancer Rogue pet is the clear winner in terms of pure DPS, but unless you are playing the class its hard to understand why Emissary of Thule feels so much better. First, it can actually tank and take hits pretty damn well, and it also Life Taps at a much higher rate than any of the other pets (further helping it stay alive and closing the gap in raw DPS). At high levels the Rogue pet and Monk pet are getting shit blasted by 1-2 AoEs or accidental agro and dieing literally all the time. Emissary of Thule is a vastly more reliable pet on Raids and honestly once you have it you should never summon any of your other pets... Get Arch Lich for maximum immersion (ghost army).

The QoL of Emissary of Thule outweighs any DPS discrepancy by miles, plus it's the coolest pet in the game by a lot. I pick Spectre over Werewolf 99 out of 100 times
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Old 05-11-2021, 04:08 AM
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Until late Luclin you couldn't hand armor/weapons to spec pets, they just ate it:



Spec pets spawned with a no rent 2h scythe to keep them from dual wielding. It was a balance thing. They would only triple attack. Most necros rolled with the 56 monk pet in groups since its dps was higher and it could still tank okay.

So if that's missing on P99 it should be addressed.
This should be easily confirmed by checking in era logs and checking whether they pet 'sliced' (naked) or 'slashed' (has a scythe).
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Old 05-11-2021, 08:30 AM
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I had a look and it looks like I was wrong, it would quad but had a very low double-attack skill, like even as low as 150 maybe, so it would only quad once in a blue moon. Bug thread filed at any rate.
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Old 05-09-2021, 06:03 PM
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Boxing 3 mages on TakP is OP. Imo. That's were you people need to be lol.
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Old 05-09-2021, 06:25 PM
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