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Old 04-21-2021, 08:45 AM
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How was their case weak? They had several medical professionals testify that the asphyxiation was the cause of death and ruled out pretty much everything else. How much of the trial did you watch?
Virtually everyone on planet earth will eventually die of asphyxiation. The question is WHAT CAUSED IT. The medical experts the prosecution called almost all contradicted each other one what actually caused the asphyxiation. When even the prosecution's own experts are contradicting each other, it's a giant truck load of reasonable doubt that any one of them has actually "got it right".

All but Baker rules out other contributing causes, such as high drug levels and serious heart disease. The fact these "experts" dismissed these things as having potentially contributed the "asphyxiation" would make any juror doubt everything that expert had to say, because those same experts on cross examination said that heart disease alone could have killed him and his drug levels alone could have exclusively killed him. But magically, they conclude, all had no effect on how he actually died. Baker and the defense expert witness disgreed and suggest that those other things did indeed play a part.

it's like a giant neon sign of reasonable doubt.

then you get to the Mens Rea issues specifically the murder charge, and it would be virtually impossible to find a non-biased jury come to the conclusion it was satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt in this case. Essentially you'd have to believe that there is no doubt in your mind whatsoever that Chaucvin had intended to kill Floyds-- despite the fact he was being recorded by a dozen cameras 9which he knew full well were all on him).
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Old 04-21-2021, 10:05 AM
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then you get to the Mens Rea issues specifically the murder charge, and it would be virtually impossible to find a non-biased jury come to the conclusion it was satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt in this case. Essentially you'd have to believe that there is no doubt in your mind whatsoever that Chaucvin had intended to kill Floyds-- despite the fact he was being recorded by a dozen cameras 9which he knew full well were all on him).
He wasn't charged with that kind of murder. The murder 2 charge was felony murder -- not that he intended to kill, but that he caused the death while committing a felony assault. The murder 3 charge also wasn't that he intended to kill -- but rather that he caused Floyd's death with an act that was highly likely to cause a death, and was consciously indifferent to that outcome.
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Old 04-20-2021, 08:08 PM
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How many things can you Trumptards get wrong?

Anyone who thought he wasn't going to get manslaughter at a minimum has lost perspective.
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Old 04-20-2021, 09:01 PM
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How many things can you Trumptards get wrong?

Anyone who thought he wasn't going to get manslaughter at a minimum has lost perspective.
I think they should let him and Kyle rittenhouse fight to the death and the winner gets to walk

My money’s on chauvin. Rittenhouse is a frat boy looking pussy who shit his pants when a guy with a skateboard tried to fight him. Derek chauvin had a odious animus to hold that position for 9 minutes
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Old 04-20-2021, 10:17 PM
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I think they should let him and Kyle rittenhouse fight to the death and the winner gets to walk

My money’s on chauvin. Rittenhouse is a frat boy looking pussy who shit his pants when a guy with a skateboard tried to fight him. Derek chauvin had a odious animus to hold that position for 9 minutes
If shitting your pants is opening fire on your attacker. But its not so he didnt shit his pants he opened fire on his attacker. Thats the narrative anyways
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Old 04-20-2021, 08:14 PM
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Chauvin had to be found guilty, if for no other reason than national security.
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Old 04-20-2021, 08:14 PM
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So shall I bring this soup for my family during the sentencing then?
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Old 04-20-2021, 08:17 PM
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So shall I bring this soup for my family during the sentencing then?
I'd wait for it to go thru appeals first. once that murder 2 charge is tossed, there will be further riots.

any reduction of charges will result in mass property damage.

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Old 04-20-2021, 08:43 PM
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The pretzels some have to twist themselves into to ignore Maxine Waters along with Biden saying what they said is amazing.
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Old 04-20-2021, 08:48 PM
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I told you all he was going to be buried under the prison.

The justice system is not blind.

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The juror's were probably receiving death threats if they didn't say guilty.
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