Shaman/Monk Duo Question

[xaxis]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was more thinking of blue since sks are stronger due to all the patches and also iksars can wear velious armor to equal the playing field. You’d still turn out fine on green with a shaman you can do anything and you’ll have a rare combo but monk definitely more powerful just an option.

That’s true. I don’t HAVE to have him roll on green. We could do blue. I have some linited resources there at least. I just didn’t think about it because all the hype is green.

[rjw513]

Fear kiting, double FD, don’t know what level, but necro gets decent heal over time...
I’m sure there’s other synergy there...always play what you want and it will work, gotta make sure dude is having fun. If you decide to stick with it, then maybe consider the whole min/max optimal class/duo thing!

[Grakken]

Listen to Crede and JiJii. Monk/Shm are WAY overrated early. Especially, when you're new to server and ungeared.

Shaman is the most overrated class. Everyone's recollection of shaman early is when they played their twinked shaman with fungi. Slows suck till later. They are insanely high aggro for early levels and not very effective. Their dots are BARELY more efficient than their nukes till 49.

In every situation under lv49, a different class could do what you do better. The only advantage of a shaman is they can do any role, just worse than another class.

At around 51 though, Monk/Shaman feels really good. Eventually, they'll become one of the best duos possible. But, it will take a lot of pain to get to that point.

[Zipity]

Don’t listen to this bullshit, iksar monk + iksar shaman is like giving the monk a fungi, just inner fire dance for the monk and y’all will both be level 20+ untwinked in short order. Kill skeletons and yard trash til lvl 3 then move to the spiderling caves til they green out. The silk sells very well to other players. Get a sewing kit. Literally just spam inner fire on the monk you don’t get a more efficient healing spell until like level uh 53 in Kunark on green outside of Regen line? Lol. Spell available at lvl 1 learn to sit immediately
After to collect the mana and you’ll never go oom even with shite gear. Once monsters start hitting to hard to keep up you will have longer battles where you can use slow and Regen and canni and burst heals.

[xaxis]

Originally Posted by Zipity [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Literally just spam inner fire on the monk you don’t get a more efficient healing spell until like level uh 53 in Kunark on green outside of Regen line? Lol. Spell available at lvl 1 learn to sit immediately

Some good advice in general but this right here was the diamond in the rough. How is this true? (It is, I investigated) Seems . . . if not "broken" necessarily, then at least just not right.

[Danth]

Trying to heal a player with perhaps 2000 health using a 20 HP buff/heal while standing and sitting over and over to time casts between meditate ticks all so you might be perhaps 10% more mana efficient is not a recipe for having a fun time. Most ordinary non-obsessive players will forget about Inner Fire around level 19.

Danth

[xaxis]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trying to heal a player with perhaps 2000 health using a 20 HP buff/heal while standing and sitting over and over to time casts between meditate ticks all so you might be perhaps 10% more mana efficient is not a recipe for having a fun time. Most ordinary non-obsessive players will forget about Inner Fire around level 19.

Danth

Oh I definitely recognized this too. Inner fire is the most MANA efficient but it’s far from actually efficient when you consider incoming damage, overall time spent casting vs. ho returned, etc... but still, the fact that a lvl 1 not-even-a-true-heal is better and/or viable for at least the bottom third of levels? That’s crazy.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by xaxis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some good advice in general but this right here was the diamond in the rough. How is this true? (It is, I investigated) Seems . . . if not "broken" necessarily, then at least just not right.

Inner Fire may be efficient hp/mana but is no effective in terms of hp/second. It can't be used to heal people with a superior hp/ac type buff on (pretty much anything from the cleric/druid lines apart from maybe courage and skin like wood).

Great for healing a target receiving less than 6 dps, or less than 3dps if you are hoping to catch med ticks.

Once incoming dps exceeds 6, or the incoming dps is very spikey, inner fire loses its value.

Compare to Light Healing, which can heal about 15dps (and casts faster for when you need a heal FAST), or Healing which can heal at about 30dps.7

For a mid 20 shaman PLing a 1-20 monk by mainly buffing and healing inner fire is a decent option.

[Toxigen]

Just go Blue. Its a duo / trio playground. You'll be able to freely go wherever and not deal with a bunch of spergs cluttering up the popular zones.

I'd be more than happy to help get you started if you need some cheap gear.

[xaxis]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just go Blue. Its a duo / trio playground. You'll be able to freely go wherever and not deal with a bunch of spergs cluttering up the popular zones.

I'd be more than happy to help get you started if you need some cheap gear.

Well it looks like we may be going blue after all (if I can get him to stop dragging his feet lol) so I may just take you up on that!