If only DKP were tradable.

[Nexii]

AM was warned after a kill where the kite was dropped in a corner, not the one where Kelzaraz had more aggro and dropped the kite 2 minutes into Tunare fight. Come on Detoxx I was present for both...

Anyways if you got a friendly GM that's nice and all. Winning is pretty hollow when you don't have to follow the rules others do. Of course, it's all not really even about winning as I learned later. I would have steered clear of both guilds

[karadin]

Originally Posted by Nexii [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AM was warned after a kill where the kite was dropped in a corner, not the one where Kelzaraz had more aggro and dropped the kite 2 minutes into Tunare fight. Come on Detoxx I was present for both...

Anyways if you got a friendly GM that's nice and all. Winning is pretty hollow when you don't have to follow the rules others do. Of course, it's all not really even about winning as I learned later. I would have steered clear of both guilds

The “winning” part of Tunare happens with Takish, and we saw what happened there after FRAG won the FTE and had him in camp.

[Nexii]

Originally Posted by karadin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The “winning” part of Tunare happens with Takish, and we saw what happened there after FRAG won the FTE and had him in camp.

Yea I'm sure Dica intentionally desynced. As Naethyn put it FRAG would rather see the world burn. Literally driving away players like myself who didn't enjoy Riot's toxic culture.

It's a sad state of affairs that a bunch of mid 30 year olds can't compete with sportsmanship. That GMs need to police it all to make it enjoyable to play.

Like I said though its not about competing it's about revenge. Revenge over Riot being too righteous to allow ex-AM to apply. Which I didn't agree with either. Not allowing the guild to vote on who got in happened in AM too, so there is some irony there.

[karadin]

Originally Posted by Nexii [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea I'm sure Dica intentionally desynced. As Naethyn put it FRAG would rather see the world burn. Literally driving away players like myself who didn't enjoy Riot's toxic culture.

It's a sad state of affairs that a bunch of mid 30 year olds can't compete with sportsmanship. That GMs need to police it all to make it enjoyable to play.

Like I said though its not about competing it's about revenge. Revenge over Riot being too righteous to allow ex-AM to apply. Which I didn't agree with either. Not allowing the guild to vote on who got in happened in AM too, so there is some irony there.

Yeah I didn't mean to imply it was intentional. Riot made it right thankfully but then posted a really strange petition after that.

I don't understand your let it burn comment. What is it that we're doing that gives you this impression?

[Nexii]

Originally Posted by karadin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I didn't mean to imply it was intentional. Riot made it right thankfully but then posted a really strange petition after that.

I don't understand your let it burn comment. What is it that we're doing that gives you this impression?

Just look at the attitude and style of speech of your leadership. It's awful. I like how Detoxx gets bogged down on the one issue of unfair play and ignores all the other more important criticisms I raised. The issues on the server and in FRAG go way deeper.

[glerkywop]

Originally Posted by karadin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I didn't mean to imply it was intentional. Riot made it right thankfully but then posted a really strange petition after that.

I don't understand your let it burn comment. What is it that we're doing that gives you this impression?

What was strange about the Riot petition?

AG/F failed to tag Guardian Takish for 26 seconds, meaning that Takish wasn't brought into camp until 1:07, nearly 50 seconds after he should have been in camp. What is this new precedent that only time moving away from camp counts toward a kite's timer? Do we just ignore the other half of that equation? Time not in camp is time not in camp.

In the AG/F response to the "strange" Riot petition, they granted themselves an four seconds of leeway by pretending that their raid was not on top of the hill and that the kite timer only counted as Guardian Takish ran past the zone-in rings--not as he turned left away from the raid. Even granting yourselves these four seconds, you're looking at 45 seconds that Takish should have been in your camp and wasn't.

If AG/F want to apply their new "a kite is only time moving away from camp" precedent AND grant themselves an extra four seconds, you're still looking at 22 seconds which is still greater than the 18-second "DA" precedent that has been sacrosanct on this server for years. AG/F are claiming "no harm, no foul" here by applying their other new precedent by saying, "well, actually, if you get a good server tick, a DA can be 23 seconds!"

Also, as far as the Dica train is concerned, Dica agros a horse at 0:41--Dica did not zone into the Plane of Growth until after Guardian Takish had been FTEd, meaning that AG/F either failed to properly start a kite (it seems AG/F bards only moved toward Guardian Takish and no one was working on a zone-in kite to allow the raid to safely zone in--the exact same reason that a handful of horses head straight to your camp after Dica dies because they had agro from zoning in into horses) or a kite was dropped near zone-in because AG/F had a presence in the zone for at least 1:30 by the time that horse agros Dica.

And while it's true that Dica did agro a horse upon zoning in because someone either failed to properly start a kite or dropped a kite, that singular horse was pulled off of Dica by an AG/F bard (seen at the 1:01 mark in Dica's fraps, "a rolling plains steed begins to chant"), brought into a kite, and was subsequently dropped without warning (the bard with that kite either died or capped out).

Have we reached the dystopian point of p99 where we just stop applying logic to things and say whatever feels good?

[Phaezed-Reality]

like 1000 kingdum dkps is worth like 0 seal teams dkp. none of their dkp is accured from killing dragons.

[Detoxx]

Awful lot of words for an awful lot of wrong there pal.

2 paragraphs of how a stall is not only going away from camp
1 paragraph defending Dica for training after conceding 2 Tunares for Dica training.

Ouch

[Raev]

http://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]etoxx

Is this legit? How is it after 6 years Detoxx isn't BIS? I mean, these stats are arguably closer to poor old Sakuragi (-700 HP after shaman stamina) than Alde (+400 HP, +200 AC, and yes AC matters). Did you go Monk or something?

[Nexii]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]etoxx

Is this legit? How is it after 6 years Detoxx isn't BIS? I mean, these stats are arguably closer to poor old Sakuragi (-700 HP after shaman stamina) than Alde (+400 HP, +200 AC, and yes AC matters). Did you go Monk or something?

Magelo tends to underreport HP and overreport mana. At least for my profile as Cleric