The Dungeon Project

[Darkslide632]

Doing this currently with RL friend and family... or I was, until my kids slacked off. Our choice of a group was pretty much spot on with yours. PAL, CLR, WIZ, BRD, ROG

[Squankle]

Dang it kids, do your everquest chores!

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Looks like I'm a week behind y'all. Hopefully I'll catch up this week (current lvl 11 Human SK)

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Originally Posted by GMT6 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. Paladin/Shadow Knight
2. Cleric
3. Enchanter
4. Bard
5. Wizard
6. Rogue

Bard and enchanter never in same group
if you have a knight you dont use a clr you use a shm

also no way charasis has that low of a zem it was huge on live

It's a problem with this server. For some reason the staff wants The Hole to be the only end-game dungeon with a high XP mod.

[ride the spiral]

I disagree on the Bard never with Enchanter idea. Bard can fill the gaps and let the enchanter do the heavy CC lifting. Also frees up enchanter to be a bit less cautious on charms as bard is right there to lock it down should it break free. And it should increase the overall rate of pull having both.

And I don't see the rationale behind using shaman as heals if you have knight tanks. Cleric is best heals in the game, knights are best group tanks in the game. All of this points towards more efficiency and faster rate of pulls. Plus, if you have an enchanter shaman isn't really needed anyway.

And I also disagree with the sentiments regarding Wizards in groups. You will still have crazy ass trains every once in a while, so having Evac really smooths over the night/peace of mind. And Wizards are about double mana efficiency of magicians, so while I can agree that magicians have more overall dps in a group setting, I would still rather have the evac, roots, and on demand damage of the Wizard. I believe the majority of "wizard is worst class for groups sentiments" come from the fact that its easy for Wizards to afk under the guise of medding for mana. A well played Wizard in a group is a strong asset imo.

All that being said, I still believe this is an ideal group.
1. Paladin or SK
2. Cleric
3. Enchanter or Shaman
4. Bard
5. Rogue
6. Wizard

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Originally Posted by ride the spiral [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree on the Bard never with Enchanter idea. Bard can fill the gaps and let the enchanter do the heavy CC lifting. Also frees up enchanter to be a bit less cautious on charms as bard is right there to lock it down should it break free. And it should increase the overall rate of pull having both.

And I don't see the rationale behind using shaman as heals if you have knight tanks. Cleric is best heals in the game, knights are best group tanks in the game. All of this points towards more efficiency and faster rate of pulls. Plus, if you have an enchanter shaman isn't really needed anyway.

And I also disagree with the sentiments regarding Wizards in groups. You will still have crazy ass trains every once in a while, so having Evac really smooths over the night/peace of mind. And Wizards are about double mana efficiency of magicians, so while I can agree that magicians have more overall dps in a group setting, I would still rather have the evac, roots, and on demand damage of the Wizard. I believe the majority of "wizard is worst class for groups sentiments" come from the fact that its easy for Wizards to afk under the guise of medding for mana. A well played Wizard in a group is a strong asset imo.

All that being said, I still believe this is an ideal group.
1. Paladin or SK
2. Cleric
3. Enchanter or Shaman
4. Bard
5. Rogue
6. Wizard

When I played my Bard on Blue (he's at 54) I always LOVED getting invited to a group with a Chanter -- was a real break and much more relaxed Barding.

Also with the Shaman ur getting the Malo line which is huge for charm duration (and basically required @ camp like fungi king)

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Originally Posted by GMT6 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yea bards dont add enough dps to justify the spot if they arent doing CC especially with a wizard whos going to wait to nuke

99% of groups didnt charm on live p99 is far from classic

I'd say that with a Chanter AND Bard both providing Mana regen that'd be REAL nice for Wizard DPS.