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Old 12-21-2020, 08:57 AM
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They honestly should have done it inversely proportional to annual income...lowest earners get the most and higher earners less...just wrap it up into 2020's fed tax filing.

But again, we're talking about politicians. They only care about their lobbies and doing just enough for their constituents to get re-elected.
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Old 12-21-2020, 09:07 AM
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Old 12-21-2020, 09:11 AM
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I don't need a stimulus, I am okay, but I know a lot of people, who are in such deep crap from all this, that $600 isn't even going to come close to helping them.

Especially since a lot of them lost their job at no fault of their own but because of the Government not letting them go back to work.

I don't like hand outs but these folks are out of a job or out of money because local, state and even federal governments needlessly destroyed the economy. It's not the people's fault, at least compensate them for it.

These clowns on Capitol Hill are so out of touch. They never missed a paycheck.

Beyond infuriating!
You know what’s infuriating? Seeing idiots like you beg for more stimulus money when you don’t even realize where this money is coming from or how it will be repaid. Go look in the mirror and rue your decisions to not be doing work that is considered essential during a pandemic. Fuck off you whiney socialist
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Old 12-21-2020, 06:13 PM
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You know what’s infuriating? Seeing idiots like you beg for more stimulus money when you don’t even realize where this money is coming from or how it will be repaid. Go look in the mirror and rue your decisions to not be doing work that is considered essential during a pandemic. Fuck off you whiney socialist
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You know what’s infuriating? Seeing idiots like you beg for more stimulus money when you don’t even realize where this money is coming from or how it will be repaid. Go look in the mirror and rue your decisions to not be doing work that is considered essential during a pandemic. Fuck off you whiney socialist
Wow you are wrong about everything here. First off, I'm not a socialist. I'm a capitalist with common sense that government transfer payments are the right thing to do for people who have been screwed over by the government shutting down entire parts of the economy. How long do you think capitalism will survive if we ignore a large part of the population who can't earn their crust right now? How long are we going to enjoy the fruits of capitalism when we got millions of hungry and destitute zoomers beating down our doors and taking our shit? We ignore these people at our own peril. You are an idiot thinking government transfer payments is some socialist Bernie Sanders/AOC crap. Are millions of Veterans, who have served our country honorably who get government transfer payments in the form of VA disability compensation, are they whiny socialists in your opinion too? You're a dumb ass to pigeon hole pragmatic ideas to single ideologies.

REPAID? Ha ha. Clearly, you have no idea how the Fed and the US Dollar work. It's call quantitative easing. Much of our national debt is on the Fed's balance sheet. Much of our national debt is merely an accounting entry. You probably don't bitch about them doing this to finance a 20 year war that's going no where or to bail out banks, but to help our own people.

I am an essential worker who hasn't missed a paycheck, but I have ability to put myself in other American's shoes who don't have that blessing.

At least you owned some "socialists" today, Cleetus.
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Old 12-22-2020, 06:20 AM
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Wow you are wrong about everything here. First off, I'm not a socialist. I'm a capitalist with common sense that government transfer payments are the right thing to do for people who have been screwed over by the government shutting down entire parts of the economy. How long do you think capitalism will survive if we ignore a large part of the population who can't earn their crust right now? How long are we going to enjoy the fruits of capitalism when we got millions of hungry and destitute zoomers beating down our doors and taking our shit? We ignore these people at our own peril. You are an idiot thinking government transfer payments is some socialist Bernie Sanders/AOC crap. Are millions of Veterans, who have served our country honorably who get government transfer payments in the form of VA disability compensation, are they whiny socialists in your opinion too? You're a dumb ass to pigeon hole pragmatic ideas to single ideologies.

REPAID? Ha ha. Clearly, you have no idea how the Fed and the US Dollar work. It's call quantitative easing. Much of our national debt is on the Fed's balance sheet. Much of our national debt is merely an accounting entry. You probably don't bitch about them doing this to finance a 20 year war that's going no where or to bail out banks, but to help our own people.

I am an essential worker who hasn't missed a paycheck, but I have ability to put myself in other American's shoes who don't have that blessing.

At least you owned some "socialists" today, Cleetus.
I wanted to reply earlier but I was a little too sick. You came across as angry and really mean, that's just what I personally felt trying to read your post, I even got a little scared. Understandable in the modern climate of 'fuck you shithole die motherfucker politics'. Your point didn't come across well. Is it, that we are all in this together and we as individuals will get wrekt by Jeff Bezos and pals, if we don't chip in to make the world a better place to give young babes the opportunity to grow strong and independent?

Anyway, god bless, and have a Happy winter if we don't talk on this subject again. I'm hoping things will get better for all of us.
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Old 12-21-2020, 09:16 AM
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eh can you say that to small business owners that the government shut down though? this forced bankruptcy
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Old 12-21-2020, 09:36 AM
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I’ve yet to hear of a situation where a business owner stayed open and the police came and shut them down. Sack up
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Old 12-21-2020, 09:43 AM
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I’ve yet to hear of a situation where a business owner stayed open and the police came and shut them down. Sack up
Just look at the restaurant industry.

Left-leaning cities and towns are literally paying people to go around and inspect for 50% occupancy, mask-wearing, etc. How is a small restaurant supposed to stay afloat at 50%? Its impossible.

I'm just glad FL's governor told the mayors they can't fine people or businesses for mask wearing anymore. I would hate to be living in CA, NY, MA, etc right now.
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Old 12-21-2020, 09:49 AM
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Just look at the restaurant industry.

Left-leaning cities and towns are literally paying people to go around and inspect for 50% occupancy, mask-wearing, etc. How is a small restaurant supposed to stay afloat at 50%? Its impossible.

I'm just glad FL's governor told the mayors they can't fine people or businesses for mask wearing anymore. I would hate to be living in CA, NY, MA, etc right now.
But has anyone that has defied been shut down? Everyone that I know that has told them to fuck off is still in business. Lots of empty threats is all I see. They will have to forcefully remove me from my small business, and it hasn’t happened yet. Stop fear mongering
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Old 12-21-2020, 09:57 AM
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But has anyone that has defied been shut down? Everyone that I know that has told them to fuck off is still in business. Lots of empty threats is all I see. They will have to forcefully remove me from my small business, and it hasn’t happened yet. Stop fear mongering
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