If you wear a mask for any reason

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by Caroll [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you have no medical or scientific credentials and thus have no credibility. Thank you.

Can you please post a quote of Dr. Fauci saying "Masks barely protect people working in hospitals," for all of us? I'm sure it's easy to find.

Sure here ya go:

"There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face."

But I'm sure you'll respond with "welllll, NOW he says you should wear one". Yes he does. But you're appealing to expertise and authority on this issue, and even the expert apparently only learned in the last 7 months after practicing medicine for 50 years that masks are magic.

Also it's extremely retarded to keep doing this appeal to authority bullshit that you love to do. For one thing it *is* an actual logical fallacy, something can be true when uttered by a non-expert, and something can also be untrue when uttered by an expert. But what are *your* medical credentials? Your certainty that masks are totally super effective is just as absent any kind of expertise as my suggestion that maybe they aren't. And even if they *are*, which I'm willing to accept, the disease they are meant to prevent is extremely benign, thankfully. We don't do this for any other disease, we don't shut everything down and devote billions of dollars to a hasty vaccine development for other diseases, let alone ones that barely kill or seriously harm the vast majority of those they infect.

You are a master goalpost mover and argue 100% in bad faith, it's just obnoxious. It's how ten year olds argue.

[getsome]

Originally Posted by Caroll [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you please post a quote of Dr. Fauci saying "Masks barely protect people working in hospitals," for all of us? I'm sure it's easy to find.

Originally Posted by Dr Fauci

“There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.”

- March 8, 2020, 60 Minutes video interview

Fauci sold out. He enjoys media attention a bit too much and lost his credibility when he lied to the public.

[solleks]

There is no quality control whatsoever being done. I can wear a used piece of toilet paper on my face with a shit stain and no one would care. Its about programming and nothing more. There will NEVER BE PROPER COMPLIANCE, its all about your bot hood.

Naming violation

[Caroll]

Originally Posted by solleks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no quality control whatsoever being done. I can wear a used piece of toilet paper on my face with a shit stain and no one would care. Its about programming and nothing more. There will NEVER BE PROPER COMPLIANCE, its all about your bot hood.

Naming violation

What did you specialize in at medical school? What was your area of focus?

[imperiouskitten]

he's being ironical. i like solleks

[solleks]

Proved my point veryfew people know how to wear a medical mask if they even do shit other than for surgery. Nother point most medical school is propaganda and a program to instill trust into white coats. Its fake as fuck and a scam

[imperiouskitten]

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[imperiouskitten]

Fauci should be reviled by everyone, including both "camps". He said that thing about not wearing masks because of this particular academic meme designed to keep docs from treating surgical masks as full-on face shields. If you'd been to university for medicine you'd know what I'm talking about. He took a meme too literally, spoke out of hand and accidentally contributed mightily to the antimask brain-plague. He's grossly incompetent. The fact that he lied about it afterward is enough that I'd spit in his face.

[Caroll]

Originally Posted by imperiouskitten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fauci should be reviled by everyone, including both "camps". He said that thing about not wearing masks because of this particular academic meme designed to keep docs from treating surgical masks as full-on face shields. If you'd been to university for medicine you'd know what I'm talking about. He took a meme too literally. He's grossly incompetent.

I think he tried to play politics by placating the Trump administration initially while making dubious claims about masks early on to preserve the stockpile. But what's the alternative? That other guy touting herd-immunity? "Dr." Atlas? Some may view that as the "less of two evils," which is why Joseph R. Biden defeated Donald J. Trump in the election. It wasn't due to Biden's popularity or competence, it's just that the alternative was far worse.

[imperiouskitten]

Originally Posted by Caroll [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think he tried to play politics by placating the Trump administration initially while making dubious claims about masks early on to preserve the stockpile. But what's the alternative? That other guy touting herd-immunity? "Dr." Atlas? Some may view that as the "less of two evils," which is why Joseph R. Biden defeated Donald J. Trump in the election. It wasn't due to Biden's popularity or competence, it's just that the alternative was far worse.

You can watch his interviews. He clearly speaks out-of-hand this meme from the academy, "oh it'll maybe stop a droplet or two but the virus is much smaller..." in a self-assured way, very overconfident in the wisdom he was told in the academy. He was being Mr. Big Smartguy and many people have died for it.

Not to insist that my speculation is accurate, but I really am quite positive it is in this case. The lie came later, when he pretended he was preserving the stockpile of pieces of paper or cloth. You can use a folded T-shirt to replace a surgical mask so there's really no potential shortage. Trump hadn't committed to a political path at this point on the pandemic, and Fauci could have shaped it, but instead he spouted off without thinking and lend legitimacy to the coldest, most brutal approach to this pandemic. He is such a disgrace it makes me sick.