Reading UN channel, whos the villian?

[sobchakdude]

Originally Posted by Zoggren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Half this server still thinks that Covid is a hoax by the Democrats

Democrats are just dumb for falling for it

[Akg49]

Originally Posted by Zoggren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Half this server still thinks that Covid is a hoax by the Democrats, so I don't get the analogy. Nice care troll for the Freedom members though, but I'm sure they are just fine enjoying their Vulak and inner ring ToV loots that used to be completely the realm of Riot. It sucks to share. I guess equality to some people feels like oppression, when you had such a run of the place.

rofl you just made the analogy even stronger.

Idk how you can remark that last part about Riot though, they literally put in a 1:1:1 rotation proposal for every mob in the game, and it was shot down by Freedom haha

Meanwhile Detoxx/Furoar push races that have demonstrably been excluding the smaller guilds.

[Psyborg]

Originally Posted by Akg49 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

rofl you just made the analogy even stronger.

Idk how you can remark that last part about Riot though, they literally put in a 1:1:1 rotation proposal for every mob in the game, and it was shot down by Freedom haha

Meanwhile Detoxx/Furoar push races that have demonstrably been excluding the smaller guilds.

Do you earnestly believe that raiding on P99 is going to be fun when content is fully rotated? Sorry man, but that just doesn't sound fun to us. That doesn't make us some evil entity.

[kaizersoze]

Originally Posted by Zoggren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only people who think that Kittens is in a tier with Freedom are people who don't raid, or delusional Kittens who will probably jump to Riot soon. If you're such a great raiding guild where have you been the last year and a half? My respect for Kittens dwindles. You're not competition yet. When you have the ability to compete for mobs, and those mobs will be Riot's, we'll see how deep your relationship is with that guild.

I see that Riot is Petyr Baylish in this fight. Playing the victim against a man they have continually slandered as a habitual rule breaker, Detoxx, just to manipulate anyone, to get an edge in negotiations. You want rotations when it benefits you in areas that you were weak against the F/AG alliance, you want to break up the F/AG alliance because you hate how it has kicked your ass. You want rule changes to end tactics that allowed us to take mobs from you. If you can't negotiate this, you'd rather stall negotiations, all the while claiming it is Freedoms fault. I think the staff and everyone else but Kittens sees right through this, it's so obvious. It seems weird that a person with such high raid attendance suddenly has something happening irl. Getting sanctimonious about it is par for course for all the speakers I have seen from Riot.

Before I read the UN I might have agreed with Riot's assessment on many things about Freedom and Detoxx, but now that you have exposed yourself and your angle, I think I'd rather deal with a server ruleset decided by Detoxx than anything decided by Riot.

The GM's said in there statement that the petitions were a "waste of time", and some of those, in fact most of those

coming from a guild that literally cries that it cant kill anything on it's own because a big bad zerg is too much to overcome so they make a bigger zerg for half the loot? Kittens has been, and does compete in TOV and largely without incident. When is the last time kittens needed to concede a mob? Freedom has, on it's own, conceded more than it's killed, but you wanna slander kittens?

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by kaizersoze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

coming from a guild that literally cries that it cant kill anything on it's own because a big bad zerg is too much to overcome so they make a bigger zerg for half the loot? Kittens has been, and does compete in TOV and largely without incident. When is the last time kittens needed to concede a mob? Freedom has, on it's own, conceded more than it's killed, but you wanna slander kittens?

You do realize the content in ToV is trivial right ? Most of it can be cleared with 25 players. Freedom and AG have a point when they say a Large Zerg stifles competition. It forces a 30 to 40 man guild to look for outside help because without outside help they simply can't do the same type of engages and pulls that a 60 man guild can do. Trying to attack that stance just makes you seem uneducated.

[feniin]

How many Vulaks and Vyemms have Freedom killed this year? Zero.

[Zoggren]

Dude is still so serious about Kittens.

[Zoggren]

I never knew how deeply Riot hated competition until we started taking their mobs from them. I never knew they would stoop to such underhanded tactics as exaggerated petitions and rules lawyering like they did. They always seemed so fair when they utterly dominated.
Never again. Freedom and Azure Guard may get sick of each other and our alliance sometimes, but what keeps us together is a shared goal of ending the control of end game raiding by Riot. If we do it together or separately, it doesn't matter. Riot will never, ever have the server like they did. This alliance only ends when it becomes unnecessary. Take note Riot members and leadership.

[feniin]

Originally Posted by Zoggren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never knew how deeply Riot hated competition until we started taking their mobs from them. I never knew they would stoop to such underhanded tactics as exaggerated petitions and rules lawyering like they did. They always seemed so fair when they utterly dominated.
Never again. Freedom and Azure Guard may get sick of each other and our alliance sometimes, but what keeps us together is a shared goal of ending the control of end game raiding by Riot. If we do it together or separately, it doesn't matter. Riot will never, ever have the server like they did. This alliance only ends when it becomes unnecessary. Take note Riot members and leadership.

yikes. Maybe stretch your legs, take a breather, re-up the prescription for your insulin. It's just a game.

[Zoggren]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yikes. Maybe stretch your legs, take a breather, re-up the prescription for your insulin. It's just a game.

Maybe stop ad-hom attacks.