Current Raid Proposals by AG, Riot, and Freedom

[Downunderman911]

They just want Freedumb from the rules and for casuals to stay out of sight away from the pixels

[Psyborg]

Originally Posted by Downunderman911 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They just want Freedumb from the rules and for casuals to stay out of sight away from the pixels

Actually the opposite. We want casuals to come compete. The server is more fun that way!

[Phaezed-Reality]

i didn't read any of this. i think the beta server is over and you all are just latched onto beta server pixels. kunark is almost out. some of you neckbeards can roll up on green still and max 50 before it launches. its not to late.

seek help.

[Naonak]

Doesn't every one playing on blue have a right in saying what a server rule change should be? Good or bad Weather? Whether they raid daily,weekly or only at each rare Quake. It effects everyone and they will be bound to those said rules. Only if they they aren't considered minor violations.

Rule changes should be fair to all players. Not favour one guild or one raiding alliance, trying to have two separate votes.

[Akg49]

Originally Posted by Naonak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doesn't every one playing on blue have a right in saying what a server rule change should be? Good or bad Weather? Whether they raid daily,weekly or only at each rare Quake. It effects everyone and they will be bound to those said rules. Only if they they aren't considered minor violations.

Rule changes should be fair to all players. Not favour one guild or one raiding alliance, trying to have two separate votes.

That's the whole reason the raid scene is in this situation. Detoxx has been getting his way for years, creating an unbalanced raid scene, resulting in the toxicity we see. Now he wants Rotation Races so that he can do almost nothing and get all kinds of warm body charity pixels, while over half the server has no say in the matter.

[Psyborg]

Originally Posted by Akg49 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's the whole reason the raid scene is in this situation. Detoxx has been getting his way for years, creating an unbalanced raid scene, resulting in the toxicity we see. Now he wants Rotation Races so that he can do almost nothing and get all kinds of warm body charity pixels, while over half the server has no say in the matter.

Where in any of this do you see rotation races? The only thing Freedom has any interest in rotating is Tunare/RW and those seem to be the two things all guilds can agree on. Galach asked for server default fallbacks for when a rotation fails, and Freedom is suggesting a race to Tunare FTE, Riot is suggesting a race to Takish FTE (effectively), and AG is suggesting that whatever guild is in the zone when clearing when Tunare spawns should win it. Again, those 3 suggestions are only in lieu of a broken player rotation.

Please stop spewing misinformation.

[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by Naonak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doesn't every one playing on blue have a right in saying what a server rule change should be? Good or bad Weather? Whether they raid daily,weekly or only at each rare Quake. It effects everyone and they will be bound to those said rules. Only if they they aren't considered minor violations.

Rule changes should be fair to all players. Not favour one guild or one raiding alliance, trying to have two separate votes.

No, absolutely not. Only rogean, the devs, and GM's have an actual say in server rules. And that's all who shoukd have a say. Thats why ag/f/r are coming up with an AGREEMENT, to prevent lawyerquesting of the rules in the future. And the galach and other GM's are updating/creating some rules as well.

But ag/f/r are in no way making server rules. Just trying to hash out a server agreement.

[Grapeape]

every casual that's upset with the state of affairs needs to consider that Roegan and Nilbog's vision for the server might not line up with their own vision for the server, and that their own vision for the server doesnt mean a god damned thing. The server owned by the players. If we don't like the direction that the staff steers blue, click on another server from the list next time.

[Grapeape]

Originally Posted by Grapeape [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The server owned by the players.

isn't owned*

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by Grapeape [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

every casual that's upset with the state of affairs needs to consider that Roegan and Nilbog's vision for the server might not line up with their own vision for the server, and that their own vision for the server doesnt mean a god damned thing. The server isn't owned by the players. If we don't like the direction that the staff steers blue, click on another server from the list next time.

This.