2020 Election MEGAthread

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know, I'm not arrogant to believe everyone will read my posts, or that anyone at all will for that matter. But I do expect it as a common courtesy of people commenting on it. Being upfront that you didn't read it and here come all your inferences based on your skimming gives you credit for honesty if nothing else.I'm against Roe v. Wade because it was decided unconstitutionally, with the courts usurping power reserved for Congress.

I'm against Roe v. Wade because it was decided unconstitutionally, with the courts usurping power reserved for Congress.

Dont be so down on yourself, I did read your post 3 times.

I think I get your point correct me if I am wrong:
1. you personally are anti abortion
2. you want republicans because they are "origionalists" and that coincidentally is anti abortion, so thats a bonus, its the "origionalist" thing you're after.

I need to know what origionalist means, what does it mean? Ive made some pretty compelling arguments that it's republicans that have made more changes to the constitution than the democrats have, and also what is not originalist about interpreting 2 100 year old amendments to mean you cant federally outlaw abortion? or to allow gay marriage? Is it just those original like, social takes on those social issues what you mean by origionlists?

How was rvw unconstitutional?

[Woke Locc]

“This is what nominees do,” Buttigieg said. “They write the most seemingly unobjectionable, dry stuff. But really what I see in there is a pathway to judicial activism cloaked in judicial humility.”

[FatherSioux]

Originally Posted by Woke Locc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

“This is what nominees do,” Buttigieg said. “They write the most seemingly unobjectionable, dry stuff. But really what I see in there is a pathway to judicial activism cloaked in judicial humility.”

Gay Pete would win this election in a landslide. The DNC is really, really, really bad at their job.

Pete contends The Constitution is a living document. This is a split in the road for many, I do not believe it is a living document, he does. He's entitled to that and that is where Jibartik and I differ as well. I enjoy the founding fathers vision and don't think it needs to be altered yearly.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by FatherSioux [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that is where Jibartik and I differ as well. I enjoy the founding fathers vision and don't think it needs to be altered yearly.

You're making it up, because I have said not one thing that is even remotely close to that.

I have said:

1. if you are anti abortion and anti mask you are just as dumb as me for being anti shutting down the economy during every flu season.
2. if you think that the democrats use the scotus to legislate but you want to elect a scotus to repeal every amendment after the 10th(idk where you stand but it sounds like that's your position?) you are 100% using the scotus to legislate.

[Pretzelle]

Imagine caring about the opinion of people who lived 300 years ago to make decisions about today's society.

[FatherSioux]

Originally Posted by Pretzelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine caring about the opinion of people who lived 300 years ago to make decisions about today's society.

Go watch Fiddler on the Roof you child

[Pretzelle]

Originally Posted by FatherSioux [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gay Pete would win this election in a landslide. The DNC is really, really, really bad at their job.

Pete contends The Constitution is a living document. This is a split in the road for many, I do not believe it is a living document, he does. He's entitled to that and that is where Jibartik and I differ as well. I enjoy the founding fathers vision and don't think it needs to be altered yearly.

Originally Posted by FatherSioux [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Go watch Fiddler on the Roof you child

You're the one believing in fairy tales, buddy.

[Woke Locc]

Originally Posted by Pretzelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine caring about the opinion of people who lived 300 years ago to make decisions about today's society.

“It was actually Thomas Jefferson himself who said that ‘We might as well ask a man to still wear the coat which fitted him when he was a boy as expect future generations to live under’ — what he called — ‘the regime of their barbarous ancestors,'” Buttigieg added.

“So even the founders that these kind of dead hand originalists claim fidelity to understood better than their ideological descendants — today’s judicial so-called conservatives — the importance of keeping with the times. And we deserve judges and justices who understand that.”

[Pretzelle]

Stacking and Packing is the only thing that will save this country from a generation of regression. Hope that helps.

[Jibartik]

I'm skimming your post BB because its very long!

One thing you claim is that court packing is bad and we all agree on 9 judges?

Whos we? Nobody has agree'd to that. Weve changed the number from 5 to 10 many times. John Addams Didn't agree. TD Roosevelt didn't agree. The constitution doesn't say either. And and it's been as low as 5. They passed an act to lower it to 7 but never did and then just bumped it up to 9.

You say stacking is less bad than packing, but you're going to have to explain that, because you dont. If you ask 9 republicans if we should enforce prayer at school theyre going to enforce prayer at school. If it was all democrats in there yall would be at re-neducation right now. So why would you think a court stacked by evangelicals is a good idea too?

The power becomes imbalanced and one political ideology is able to take control of the country, to the dismay of half the country. It's not right, its far worse than "packing" even they way you define it.

You need to defend the claim that packing = worse than stacking, because Im calling you out, it's not true.