"We've weighed our options and...all we really lose is one Warrior" -Riot 2020

[kaizersoze]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Heard it here folks, Riot doesnt value their members or their contributions. Just another number in a very...very long line. Real nice guild to be in I see, use you then discard you when you dont matter anymore.

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That's the opposite of what they said, actually. That letting in one person isnt worth losing about 40 and their contributions lol

[Psyborg]

Originally Posted by kaizersoze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's the opposite of what they said, actually. That letting in one person isnt worth losing about 40 and their contributions lol

The person almost word for word said that Riot wouldn't even miss losing that many people.

[Dogma]

Each guild he makes is another chance to be different and it never has been.

Just sayin he's had plenty of chances.

[Hotel]

do you guys find it ironic how a core of AM players comprise a lot of your hardcore players you still have left?

it's almost like...

[Tunabros]

Good Old GUILD DRAMA

[Fammaden]

I mean to me man the most fun thing about green is leveling up one dude after another to 50, and also being able to do it in what would be considered garbage gear on blue. But a lot of people on blue already have every alt they ever wanted to make at 60 or far into the process, so that's not really appealing to everyone. But eventually you are max level and if you have investment and ties to blue already its a no brainer to play end game there instead.

As for "still talking about Detoxx" etc, drama has always been a major contributor to people's ties to end game EQ so you're answering your own questions with the stuff you're attempting to mock. Good guys, bad guys, in groups, out groups, manipulation, deceit, alliances, betrayals....these are all classic AF parts of non-instanced raiding. On green that all lasts for about 24 hours tops then its planar trash farms. On blue there's competitive raiding all week long. People like that shit, a lot of people, and they always have since the beginning.

As far as Kunark....I'm expecting the toxicity and lack of chill to reach unprecedented levels on green. Which might be pretty interesting if you have the right perspective on your pixel sickness, but there's a lot of people who will be more turned off than will be getting the raid scene improvement they are hoping for IMO.

[Tuljin]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean to me man the most fun thing about green is leveling up one dude after another to 50, and also being able to do it in what would be considered garbage gear on blue. But a lot of people on blue already have every alt they ever wanted to make at 60 or far into the process, so that's not really appealing to everyone. But eventually you are max level and if you have investment and ties to blue already its a no brainer to play end game there instead.

I also agree that the best part of EQ is actually playing the game (leveling toons and playing in garbage gear.) Really the launch of Green is "progression" as far as classic is concerned - we are all trying to go forward, not backwards.

You're not "wrong" and your answers/explanations are all correct and this -is- RnF so I need to rustle people a little bit.

Using words like "investment" when it comes to a videogame is exactly my point. Its a damn game. People can't "leave their stuff behind" to go play...the same fucking game but -actually- play it from the "beginning" and not with Game Genie. This is serious pixel sickness.

There is unprecented pixel sickness and general nonsense on Green but I foresee an implosion. People are gonna get sick of jumping through flaming hoops and staying up all night just so Phatez can get a Crown of Rile. There won't be enough loot to go around and people underestimate exactly how many nubs who play on Green simply won't be able to get to 60.

Also, on Green there's a lot of "play nice" stuff going on with guilds even when it comes to Sky at this point, so really we don't know what the ~~~~~~~~~~hhhhhhhhhhhhhrAiD sCeNe~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ will look like in Kunark.

The truth is - - - nobody has any fucking idea what will happen in Green Kunark and even the "important people" and "fat cats" are all just speculating. Maybe people will realize that without 5 years of Kunark and 5 years of Velious you won't be "guaranteed" shit and they'll finally stop chasing the carrot.

I never looked at it this way until now but at this point people like Blue because its predictable. People like routine. Sure if you ~~~rAiD~~~ then I can see how its more fun on Blue (its totally fucking stupid but whatever.) People like their shinies they "invested" in and have had for years and nobody is going to take them away and they're not going anywhere.

Anyways, yeah all this shit is still really funny to me lol

[Tuljin]

Originally Posted by Tuljin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also agree that the best part of EQ is actually playing the game (leveling toons and playing in garbage gear.) Really the launch of Green is "progression" as far as classic is concerned - we are all trying to go forward, not backwards.

Should be "trying to go backwards, not forward" but yeah anyways, P99 Blue ~~~~~~~~rAiDiNg~~~~~~~~~ in 2020 (and into 2021) and still going hard is totally ridiculous

[Psyborg]

Originally Posted by Tuljin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P99 Blue ~~~~~~~~rAiDiNg~~~~~~~~~ in 2020 (and into 2021) and still going hard is totally ridiculous

Why? We're having fun. There is no other MMO that provides a competition (guild vs guild) based PvE. This 20 year old game therefore still remains unique, no matter how far it has evolved from its original form. Most of us have played WoW and other similar MMOs. Logging in at predetermined times every week is great, but having unlimited time and no competition to kill raid targets just leaves something lacking for many of us.

If enjoying the ride on Green does it for you then more power to you.

[Albanwr]

Imagine arguing this much over a beta server...big yikes.