Treants in SK - one or two camps?

[Baler]

The two tree ents in north east South Karana are a single camp because you can sit in range of both spawns and there are no corners or geometry/building separating them.
So long as a player can keep both spawns down within a reasonable amount of time after the pop. Meaning they can't let one sit up while they med or go grab a drink.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The two tree ents in north east South Karana are a single camp because you can sit in range of both spawns and there are no corners or geometry/building separating them.

You and some players you know may believe and agree to this, bit it's not a single camp according to the rules.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You and some players you know may believe and agree to this, bit it's not a single camp according to the rules.

Those are more like guidelines, the staff make the rules.

Take it from me, someone who argues that hill giants in rathe mountains are a single camp each.
And if you rule lawyer you can see that due to the tree ents being close together, killing them within seconds of their spawning means you're killing them. Because players can not kill steal. Once one is left up too long anyone can engage it. Note they're not FTE.

So I stand by calling it a single camp, in spirit. since traditionally it's one player keeping both spawns down. However they can't petition another player for engaging a tree ent that's left up for more than a few seconds.

[Videri]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those are more like guidelines, the staff make the rules.

Take it from me, someone who argues that hill giants in rathe mountains are a single camp each.
And if you rule lawyer you can see that due to the tree ents being close together, killing them within seconds of their spawning means you're killing them. Because players can not kill steal. Once one is left up too long anyone can engage it. Note they're not FTE.

So I stand by calling it a single camp, in spirit. since traditionally it's one player keeping both spawns down. However they can't petition another player for engaging a tree ent that's left up for more than a few seconds.

baler no

Originally Posted by Khikik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is a difference between player recognized camps and Staff recognized camp's. Staff knows many of the player defined camps that don't fit fully within our rules are readily honored by most players. 9/10 Its best to discuss with other players and come to compromise when hunting in the same area.

Tldr; two camps, 1 for each static spawn point (open outdoor zone)

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

baler no

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[Sabin76]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The two tree ents in north east South Karana are a single camp because you can sit in range of both spawns and there are no corners or geometry/building separating them.

Except the same can be said of the NW, Tower (green patch), Mid spawns for HGs in Rathe. Or Tower and Slant. Or Hobo and couple conifers. I would certainly find a camp that consists of 2 HGs more valuable than just one...

Clearly we just have to define it as one of the many player exceptions to the GM standard rule (1 spawn = 1 camp) without trying to justify it further.

I actually think there would be less friction by being quite upfront about the fact that it's technically two camps, but the vast majority of players recognize it as a single camp if someone asks rather than telling them it's one camp, them going to the forums to find that, in fact, GMs only enforce a 1 spawn = 1 camp rule and then going back and trying
to rules lawyer it, getting everyone involved more pissed about the situation.

[pivo]

Originally Posted by Sabin76 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I actually think there would be less friction by being quite upfront about the fact that it's technically two camps, but the vast majority of players recognize it as a single camp if someone asks rather than telling them it's one camp

First, I would like to thank everyone for their answers. Second, I'm glad I've asked [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand situation now, and your answers made me better person in game. (well at least for this camp lol) While I understand it is one camp, I also understand the other argument and play nice policy.

Twice now, I came there to camp, saw a player that was easily handling both Treants, both times players unselfishly offered one Treant to me. In the past, I would have taken second Treant. But now, thanks to this thread, I decided to let player enjoy both of them. (and it is easy, if you are playing with more than one character) [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When I will be strong enough for both of them, if new player will ask for one, I will also share. But I will appreciate, if I will be able to level off both off them.