Kyle Rittenhouse = Based God

[reznor_]

It'll be cool when Rittenhouse goes to jail for murder.

He is: a pasty, wannabe weekend warrior tryhard white boy. Fat fuck who thinks he's good with a gun.

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by reznor_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It'll be cool when Rittenhouse goes to jail for murder.

He is: a pasty, wannabe weekend warrior tryhard white boy. Fat fuck who thinks he's good with a gun.

I disagree, he clearly demonstrated ample training with a rifle for a 17 year old. His intention was to quell rioting, not inflame it, and he was clearly willing to help people he may have disagreed with politically. He shot people who were trying to kill and\or beat him, which is like the literal definition of self defense and has about 150 years of case law to back it up. Those people made the decision to try to kill and\or beat him. "wannabe weekend warrior tryhard white boy fat fuck" doesn't exactly constitute an argument, but I can see you're quite deranged and angry about somebody you don't know and have never met and that's gotta suck.

He didn't commit anything close to murder, why would he go to jail for murder? Why would you wish for that? That's insane.

[reznor_]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree, he clearly demonstrated ample training with a rifle for a 17 year old. His intention was to quell rioting, not inflame it, and he was clearly willing to help people he may have disagreed with politically. He shot people who were trying to kill and\or beat him, which is like the literal definition of self defense and has about 150 years of case law to back it up. Those people made the decision to try to kill and\or beat him. "wannabe weekend warrior tryhard white boy fat fuck" doesn't exactly constitute an argument, but I can see you're quite deranged and angry about somebody you don't know and have never met and that's gotta suck.

He didn't commit anything close to murder, why would he go to jail for murder? Why would you wish for that? That's insane.

You took my bait. So, here's my issue with Kyle:

Literally went to a riot zone, armed, to "quell rioting" as you put it. That's not his job. Not even remotely close. Some dude with a misguided view of patriotism. No one knows, he some dude and then "self-defense" kicked in when he shot the second two (the video that's been widely shared and we've all seen). Hopefully the jury does the right thing and convicts him as he should rightly be.

I fucking love guns. I own several. I believe firmly in the second amendment. I also happen to be a democrat and believe that people shouldn't be murdered in their apartments while they sleep, and believe that everyone should have access to healthcare and basic necessities (Note: some of you will call me a socialist for this -- I believe in capitalism, but I believe we should pay a bit more to take care of people who can't afford it, so go fuck yourself). However, I'm not willing to kill republicans or people I disagree with politically -- something the right can't really make a claim to.

Showing up in a city that you're driven to *by your mother* to "quell rioting", are you fucking kidding me? That's the defense? And that he's a patriotic American doing his job? Hopefully he gets skewered for this.

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by reznor_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You took my bait. So, here's my issue with Kyle:

Literally went to a riot zone, armed, to "quell rioting" as you put it. That's not his job. Not even remotely close. Some dude with a misguided view of patriotism. No one knows, he some dude and then "self-defense" kicked in when he shot the second two (the video that's been widely shared and we've all seen). Hopefully the jury does the right thing and convicts him as he should rightly be.

I fucking love guns. I own several. I believe firmly in the second amendment. I also happen to be a democrat and believe that people shouldn't be murdered in their apartments while they sleep, and believe that everyone should have access to healthcare and basic necessities (Note: some of you will call me a socialist for this -- I believe in capitalism, but I believe we should pay a bit more to take care of people who can't afford it, so go fuck yourself). However, I'm not willing to kill republicans or people I disagree with politically -- something the right can't really make a claim to.

Showing up in a city that you're driven to *by your mother* to "quell rioting", are you fucking kidding me? That's the defense? And that he's a patriotic American doing his job? Hopefully he gets skewered for this.

No, that's not the defense. The defense is that he wasn't doing anything illegal, and people were trying to attack him, unprovoked. If somebody even just punches you hard in the jaw and you go down on pavement, you can very easily die, let alone with a skateboard. Those people, who made those choices, would still be alive whether Kyle was there that night or not had they simply not made those choices. It's clear self defense by like every reasonable interpretation of the laws of our country, unless contrary evidence comes out which it hasn't. He's just getting dogpiled because people saw a 10 second clip on facebook or some dumb shit and took *that* bait. He didn't break any laws nor entice anyone to attack him, they made conscious choices as moral actors to attack him first. This is the entire point of the 2nd amendment. It sucks they died, and it sucks police weren't able to do their jobs such that a kid felt compelled to do this in the first place. I don't like seeing any person get killed or injured, but it is fundamentally unjust to convict this kid of murder. It was not even remotely close to satisfying the legal preconditions for a murder charge.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by reznor_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You took my bait. So, here's my issue with Kyle:

Literally went to a riot zone, armed, to "quell rioting" as you put it. That's not his job. Not even remotely close. Some dude with a misguided view of patriotism. No one knows, he some dude and then "self-defense" kicked in when he shot the second two (the video that's been widely shared and we've all seen). Hopefully the jury does the right thing and convicts him as he should rightly be.

I fucking love guns. I own several. I believe firmly in the second amendment. I also happen to be a democrat and believe that people shouldn't be murdered in their apartments while they sleep, and believe that everyone should have access to healthcare and basic necessities (Note: some of you will call me a socialist for this -- I believe in capitalism, but I believe we should pay a bit more to take care of people who can't afford it, so go fuck yourself). However, I'm not willing to kill republicans or people I disagree with politically -- something the right can't really make a claim to.

Showing up in a city that you're driven to *by your mother* to "quell rioting", are you fucking kidding me? That's the defense? And that he's a patriotic American doing his job? Hopefully he gets skewered for this.

Most republicans and democrats don’t kill their political opponents, claiming democrats have the moral high ground is bull shit, our two parties are as dirty and as fucked up as they’ve ever been. The governor of Wisconsin, right after Blake’s death, tweeted some incendiary bull shit that might’ve made the protests and looting worse

It’s very hard to assign blame, we have a nation on edge right now and low IQ people who don’t value democracy, on both sides, making life harder for everyone

[BallzDeep]

Originally Posted by reznor_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You took my bait. So, here's my issue with Kyle:

Literally went to a riot zone, armed, to "quell rioting" as you put it. That's not his job. Not even remotely close. Some dude with a misguided view of patriotism. No one knows, he some dude and then "self-defense" kicked in when he shot the second two (the video that's been widely shared and we've all seen). Hopefully the jury does the right thing and convicts him as he should rightly be.

I fucking love guns. I own several. I believe firmly in the second amendment. I also happen to be a democrat and believe that people shouldn't be murdered in their apartments while they sleep, and believe that everyone should have access to healthcare and basic necessities (Note: some of you will call me a socialist for this -- I believe in capitalism, but I believe we should pay a bit more to take care of people who can't afford it, so go fuck yourself). However, I'm not willing to kill republicans or people I disagree with politically -- something the right can't really make a claim to.

Showing up in a city that you're driven to *by your mother* to "quell rioting", are you fucking kidding me? That's the defense? And that he's a patriotic American doing his job? Hopefully he gets skewered for this.

I don't understand how you are a gun owner and don't know the history behind defending property. Did you not read the post prior about staying philosophically consistent for property defense? This is why we say "A democrat with a gun, is an idiot with a gun."

Let me ask you. Do you consider the Asian's during the LA riots that picked up guns and defended their property to be immoral and breaking the law? Do you consider the blacks during Black Wallstreet who attempted to pick up their guns to use show of force to dissuade people? Do you think people have that right to defend their community? I can already tell you I would make you look pretty stupid since you would have several contradictions going on there in philosophy, and your applied ethics.

The second question would be well then, what is your community that you have a right to defend? Well, it's different for everyone. So, the law is laid down, you have the right to show of force AKA open carry to defend anything YOU deem your community as long as you have a legal right to be there and are not the agitator. For Kyle, being a member of the community there, working there and even contributing community service there PRIOR to the incident shows he did consider it his community.

On the murdered in your sleep, I assume you are talking about Breonna Taylor and just shows how severely misinformed you are. Here is the case report for that:

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/re...mary-redacted1

Read it.

[Topgunben]

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[Donkey Hotay]

He was attacked unprovoked. He defended himself with the means he was openly carrying. Video exists for the entire scenario. Case closed; anything else is unreason.

No more words; let's just get it on. Half of us are two-legged wolves who see speech as a means to subvert others to their will and half of us naively believe the others are still human.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Donkey Hotay [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He was attacked unprovoked. He defended himself with the means he was openly carrying. Video exists for the entire scenario. Case closed; anything else is unreason.

No more words; let's just get it on. Half of us are two-legged wolves who see speech as a means to subvert others to their will and half of us naively believe the others are still human.

Rioting bad, civil war OK? Got it, I’m glad someone admits it though, precisely why I’m playing devil’s advocate, because that escalation is dumb and counterproductive

Not to mention that it will end the global economy and guarantee generations of hardship, which, frankly, you and every other young person aren’t prepared to endure

[Tethler]

Be mindful of taking the Bible literally. It has been translated a number of times over the years, and translators are often able to take liberties with the meanings of passages. This can be done intentionally or accidentally and tends to be compounded after several iterations of translation (think making a photocopy of a photocopy several times, the result is much less clear). But either way, taking phrases literally is bound to result in beliefs or actions that don't align with the original version of the text.

Long story short, use it as a general guide rather that picking apart the meaning of individual sections.