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Old 09-23-2020, 01:12 PM
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No see in utopia the cops will be replaced by... uhh, well, cops, but we'll just call them something else. Oh no somebody is trying to murder my wife and child! Call the social workers!
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Old 09-23-2020, 01:17 PM
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No see in utopia the cops will be replaced by... uhh, well, cops, but we'll just call them something else. Oh no somebody is trying to murder my wife and child! Call the social workers!
How dare you propose there should be people authorized to oppress me!

I was just teaching them a valuable lesson on how to better be my wife and child! Who are you to impose your subjective moral judgements on me!
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Old 09-23-2020, 01:45 PM
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7/26/1876 – Never Forget.

I wish it were true. I mean as if we're still angry for Custer.

Native Americans afaik are governed by Tribal police as a rule, no? Then they should leave the reservation and then they be getting killed at the proper rate that real Americans enjoy dying at.
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Old 09-23-2020, 01:50 PM
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7/26/1876 – Never Forget.

I wish it were true. I mean as if we're still angry for Custer.

Native Americans afaik are governed by Tribal police as a rule, no? Then they should leave the reservation and then they be getting killed at the proper rate that real Americans enjoy dying at.
And tribal courts. Animist Sharia!!!
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Old 09-23-2020, 02:12 PM
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Native Americans afaik are governed by Tribal police as a rule, no?
Vast majority of native Americans don't live on tribal lands. It's same cops killing black folks that kill native Americans.
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Old 09-23-2020, 02:24 PM
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Focusing on when cops kill people if you purport to care about people dying is navel gazing at it's finest. Who gives a shit which ethnic group gets killed by police more? It almost never happens. Cops *get killed* by citizens like fifty billion times more often than the reverse, it just doesn't make for a sexy headline.

I'm a broken record at this point, but give police *more* funds not less, better and more extensive training and psychological screening, and have officer involved shootings investigated by a 3rd party. These three things alone would solve the majority of issues people have with police, but of course they will still occasionally kill people and idiots will still riot.
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Cops *get killed* by citizens like fifty billion times more often than the reverse
This is incorrect and case in point about my previous statement of people poisoning the well with their opinion without caring of it's integrity aside from the fact it makes you feel good. Let me get something straight, I support police they do an extremely tough and dangerous job but not in my rural middle class zip code. Them showing up in full battle rattle to antagonize or showing up to standard calls hopped up on propaganda videos of mentally ill people murdering them could be negated by allowing unbiased statistical analysis.

IE; if they show up in a gang infested neighborhood for a domestic disturbance in battle rattle and on edge nobody is surprised, if they show up in my peaceful neighborhood in the same fashion it is simply negligent.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R49P...ctr=1600889561

Responsible training and stress testing would be a start but most of their training includes videos like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4T4sWGsHMc

They are literally trained to fear the population and it is a tactic the authorities use to cause division between authority =/= civilian for them to more easily claim moral high ground. I don't care who you are, if you get backed into a corner there is the biological truth of fight or flight, in emotional distress even the most sane person could illogically resist the big unmercilles dick that is the due process of law.
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Old 09-23-2020, 03:55 PM
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This is incorrect and case in point about my previous statement of people poisoning the well with their opinion without caring of it's integrity aside from the fact it makes you feel good. Let me get something straight, I support police they do an extremely tough and dangerous job but not in my rural middle class zip code. Them showing up in full battle rattle to antagonize or showing up to standard calls hopped up on propaganda videos of mentally ill people murdering them could be negated by allowing unbiased statistical analysis.

IE; if they show up in a gang infested neighborhood for a domestic disturbance in battle rattle and on edge nobody is surprised, if they show up in my peaceful neighborhood in the same fashion it is simply negligent.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R49P...ctr=1600889561

Responsible training and stress testing would be a start but most of their training includes videos like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4T4sWGsHMc

They are literally trained to fear the population and it is a tactic the authorities use to cause division between authority =/= civilian for them to more easily claim moral high ground. I don't care who you are, if you get backed into a corner there is the biological truth of fight or flight, in emotional distress even the most sane person could illogically resist the big unmercilles dick that is the due process of law.
Well no, it is true. I may have been slightly hyperbolic with my phraseology. I don't think you and I are even disagreeing really. Again, bad police shoots are insanely, insanely uncommon period. Measures to reduce the already-tiny number of them I support, provided those measures don't make the job more dangerous than it already is. Maybe then we can address the other 99.9% of people getting killed by other people.
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Old 09-23-2020, 04:26 PM
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Well no, it is true. I may have been slightly hyperbolic with my phraseology. I don't think you and I are even disagreeing really. Again, bad police shoots are insanely, insanely uncommon period. Measures to reduce the already-tiny number of them I support, provided those measures don't make the job more dangerous than it already is. Maybe then we can address the other 99.9% of people getting killed by other people.
Tbh, my feeling of police aggression is emotionally tainted, so I think you and me are on the same page if you can agree Police should be more adequately stress tested (They should have a more rigorous internship and some avenues for alternate paths to deter people who can't handle it but cope because they wasted 6 months of their life and have no other plan) and allowing the implementation of un-biased statistics be used (They are for the most part, I was being a bit melodramatic about my comment on police procedure in my area. They are all very involved and good people). There is really no 'solve all' but seeing things like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R49P...ctr=1600889561
really make me sick, I hope they all go to prison for murder.

The kind of ironic thing is, a unified protest against police ROE (not this race division bullshit) would have solved the whole ordeal by putting pressure on people who pursued that career and passively weeding out the manic applicants who think it might be fun to be a cop
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Old 09-23-2020, 04:03 PM
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Cops *get killed* by citizens like fifty billion times more often than the reverse, it just doesn't make for a sexy headline.
math checks out
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