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Old 08-26-2020, 09:30 AM
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Then freedom would not exists. Freedoms vision is written to remove the server oppression of the ZERG Riot.
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Old 08-26-2020, 09:33 AM
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Then freedom would not exists. Freedoms vision is written to remove the server oppression of the ZERG Riot.
Yes, of course. And they're doing that by....consistently teaming up with the other giant zerg to form an even bigger zerg? You all had like 150 at AOW the other day. Lets not pretend there's a material difference between zerg1 and zerg2.
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Old 08-26-2020, 09:34 AM
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Yes, of course. And they're doing that by....consistently teaming up with the other giant zerg to form an even bigger zerg? You all had like 150 at AOW the other day. Lets not pretend there's a material difference between zerg1 and zerg2.

Should be "they" instead of "you." I don't know what guild you're in. stupid not being able to edit posts in RnF.
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Old 08-26-2020, 09:35 AM
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This would all be much simpler if we all just merged into one big mega guild.
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Old 08-26-2020, 09:40 AM
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This would all be much simpler if we all just merged into one big mega guild.
But then who would Dannyl, Detoxx, Conda, and Furor tell to get good?
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Old 08-26-2020, 09:51 AM
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Gotta ask because I don't play on blue.
"Then freedom would not exists. Freedoms vision is written to remove the server oppression of the ZERG Riot."

I am guessing freedom made a guild to help fix the servers toxic raid environment. Anyone care to explain anyways they actually helped? Like how did they plan to do this, what failed, what worked.

Bc reading forums seems blue raid environment is still a shit show. And lets face it green is right there, I personally would like to see green be a better place.
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Old 08-26-2020, 09:59 AM
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I am guessing freedom made a guild to help fix the servers toxic raid environment.
Can probably stop right there. Freedom made a guild to benefit themselves, just the same way Riot formed and operates to benefit itself. No one is altruistic, here. Freedom's only problem with the current meta is that they aren't the ones who benefit the most from it. Do you think fif they were winning the majority of mobs in the current meta, that they would be in favor of a change that would result in them getting less?
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Old 08-26-2020, 05:02 PM
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Can probably stop right there. Freedom made a guild to benefit themselves, just the same way Riot formed and operates to benefit itself. No one is altruistic, here. Freedom's only problem with the current meta is that they aren't the ones who benefit the most from it. Do you think fif they were winning the majority of mobs in the current meta, that they would be in favor of a change that would result in them getting less?
My stance on the current raid scene has pretty much been unchanged since the DAY rooted dragons were implement. For the record, Aftermath very much cleaned up that day. The only big mob we didn't get was Vulak, because a flury re spawned on us while vulak was at like 15%. A mega alliance, of something like 250 players killed Vulak that day instead of Aftermath.

I said that was some of the most fun raiding i've ever had, but people are going to burn out. And that's what happened. Vulak became 1 guild mob. If you have wanted Vulak loot for the last year, your ONLY choice is to join Riot. Which is an issue.

AND just to put this out there, before Freedom formed, I app'd to Riot. And I was excited to join Riot, as I always wanted to see what it was like to raid with "The other side". The reason i withdrew my app was because I wanted to raid with my EQ family one more time, and because I want to see this server competitive again. I can copy/paste logs with the Riot recruitment officer where I clearly talk about how underwhelming raiding is now with 0 competition on most ToV targets. I can copy paste logs of me trying to talk officers of Paradigm Shift to compete more in ToV, and strategies required. I can copy and paste "welcome back" messages to (or /ooc) awakened/tempest members that i'm happy to see them not suspended anymore because it was so boring without them.

I would like to say that I am confident that the arguments I make about competition in ToV are not motivated by the allure of more pixels coming my way. Maybe there are! But I can say for a fact that i have been banging on this "Keep competition on p99" drum for years now
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Old 08-26-2020, 10:05 AM
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Gotta ask because I don't play on blue.
"Then freedom would not exists. Freedoms vision is written to remove the server oppression of the ZERG Riot."

I am guessing freedom made a guild to help fix the servers toxic raid environment. Anyone care to explain anyways they actually helped? Like how did they plan to do this, what failed, what worked.

Bc reading forums seems blue raid environment is still a shit show. And lets face it green is right there, I personally would like to see green be a better place.
Actually things were going relatively well (in my opinion) after Aftermath was slain and AG / Riot had a few different agreements that were favorable to QOL to both parties. Third parties probably could have gotten into them if they'd asked, but after the AG / AM merge and AM dumped a bunch of transfer DKP, they formed Guild / Renamedguild / Ghxst, which swiftly died, then formed Freedom for the illusion of third party competition which is (roughly) 70 people top pop, more often than not like 30-40ish though. Numbers growing since they sucked up some of the aegis folks and siphoning off AG bit by bit as they team with them.

Theyre good players, but a few of them (mostly leadership) have reps that make people not want to play with them.
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Old 08-26-2020, 09:58 AM
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