Why did the Kael FTE rules change?

[KansasComrade]

Originally Posted by MaCtastic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where are these rules posted? An invite only channel isn’t an acceptable answer; btw.

Did no one read the thread? When Dain rules are finalized, they will all be made public. Until then, they’re in the UN and your guild leaders should have access. If your guild doesn’t have access to UN I wouldn’t worry so much about what this means for you guys.

[Mikebro]

Originally Posted by KansasComrade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did no one read the thread? When Dain rules are finalized, they will all be made public. Until then, they’re in the UN and your guild leaders should have access. If your guild doesn’t have access to UN I wouldn’t worry so much about what this means for you guys.

Meanwhile rule confusions from backdoor channels are causing petitions while spawns are still happening. I want my money back.

Oh wait...

[Twochain]

other guilds* not another guilds

[Dman2701]

Its funny you keep talking about training in ntov, but all the trains lately have been from Freedom AG, seems you guys are the problem

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by Dman2701 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its funny you keep talking about training in ntov, but all the trains lately have been from Freedom AG, seems you guys are the problem

I talk about trains because it's a train meta. You train mobs away from or sometimes through raids. You kite them in a circle. Or you kite them away. Doze, trains both directions. Eashen, Train guards out. Vulak, train and kite flurries. Etc. Etc.

But I mean... to your point.. FR/AG are the only people competing against you guys in ToV lol... it's like saying "man when you guys weren't around everything went smooth". Riot isn't immune to accidentally training. ALL the trains lately have been from us? Come on man. You trained AG last week at vulak, and instead of conceding you let them team up with you. And gave them 1 loot. lol.

Let's take a look at the last Vulak FR/AG killed. We ended up having to concede two, but let's highlight what a shit show it was.

Feshlak was up, and it was an hours long stalemate. Kittens attempt to kill Fesh. They get it down to like what, 15? And start wiping. You guys send in a snipe crew. While you're engaged with Feshlak, a mob at the bottom of the ramp respawns. By chance (It could have agro'd anybody from all guilds represented if i'm not mistaken) the mob agros one of our members first. Not a big deal, it's a hot mob. Surely with 100+ raiders, we could reasonably be expected to be able to handle one HoT mob. We're dealing with it, but since most of our camp was in vulaks lair, we had to eventually move the mob there. Vulak was obviously our target. You were currently engaged with another target. You finish off fesh, and the moment it dies, by some miracle of RNG, Chexi gets FTE on Vulak. Since half of you raid force wasn't even in vulaks lair, it was immediately going to be a sketchy engage. Things fall off the rail pretty quick for you guys. BUT! the mob that we had been dealing with since before you were even engaged to vulak started summoning your low HP raiders from your, idk i guess ballsy? Vulak attempt, we had to concede two.

Most of that wasn't readily apparent until days later and hours of fraps being uploaded. Yet, 300+ wiped because you guys engaged a mob you weren't going to be able to take down with half your raid force. But we had to concede, but i'm not mad about that, because rules are rules. But don't forget that........ 300+ people wiped two more times after that, and from what I understand both times were Riot's fault. Which is why you guys conceded.

SO even though it was mainly your fault why 300+ people had to recover corpses for 2 hours, on a technicality, Fr/Ag was to blame because during the first wipe, a mob that we had been killing while you were engaged to an entirely different target summoned some of you as you frantically attempted Vulak.

Shit show

[Pretzelle]

Originally Posted by Twochain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I talk about trains because it's a train meta. You train mobs away from or sometimes through raids. You kite them in a circle. Or you kite them away. Doze, trains both directions. Eashen, Train guards out. Vulak, train and kite flurries. Etc. Etc.

But I mean... to your point.. FR/AG are the only people competing against you guys in ToV lol... it's like saying "man when you guys weren't around everything went smooth". Riot isn't immune to accidentally training. ALL the trains lately have been from us? Come on man. You trained AG last week at vulak, and instead of conceding you let them team up with you. And gave them 1 loot. lol.

Let's take a look at the last Vulak FR/AG killed. We ended up having to concede two, but let's highlight what a shit show it was.

Feshlak was up, and it was an hours long stalemate. Kittens attempt to kill Fesh. They get it down to like what, 15? And start wiping. You guys send in a snipe crew. While you're engaged with Feshlak, a mob at the bottom of the ramp respawns. By chance (It could have agro'd anybody from all guilds represented if i'm not mistaken) the mob agros one of our members first. Not a big deal, it's a hot mob. Surely with 100+ raiders, we could reasonably be expected to be able to handle one HoT mob. We're dealing with it, but since most of our camp was in vulaks lair, we had to eventually move the mob there. Vulak was obviously our target. You were currently engaged with another target. You finish off fesh, and the moment it dies, by some miracle of RNG, Chexi gets FTE on Vulak. Since half of you raid force wasn't even in vulaks lair, it was immediately going to be a sketchy engage. Things fall off the rail pretty quick for you guys. BUT! the mob that we had been dealing with since before you were even engaged to vulak started summoning your low HP raiders from your, idk i guess ballsy? Vulak attempt, we had to concede two.

Most of that wasn't readily apparent until days later and hours of fraps being uploaded. Yet, 300+ wiped because you guys engaged a mob you weren't going to be able to take down with half your raid force. But we had to concede, but i'm not mad about that, because rules are rules. But don't forget that........ 300+ people wiped two more times after that, and from what I understand both times were Riot's fault. Which is why you guys conceded.

SO even though it was mainly your fault why 300+ people had to recover corpses for 2 hours, on a technicality, Fr/Ag was to blame because during the first wipe, a mob that we had been killing while you were engaged to an entirely different target summoned some of you as you frantically attempted Vulak.

Shit show

Sounds like you need to take a mental health break. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Pretzelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like you need to take a mental health break. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lot of folks should and employment. sorry the cares act ran out.

velious has been farmed for 5 years, most of yall lost.

Sorry you dont got warder loot.

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by Pretzelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like you need to take a mental health break. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

? i'm at like 25% RA.. and if i never got another piece of raid loot, i'd be content with my characters. They're pretty good. I need to take a mental health break because i'm highlighting the short comings of the current situation in ToV?

ooookay dude thanks for the input i'll consider it.

[Gatordash]

Originally Posted by Dman2701 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its funny you keep talking about training in ntov, but all the trains lately have been from Freedom AG, seems you guys are the problem

lol weren't you the riot monk who trained AG at the ramp up to trips when setting up for Vulak on Aug 14? That was like 1.5 weeks ago

[condap99]

Originally Posted by Gatordash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol weren't you the riot monk who trained AG at the ramp up to trips when setting up for Vulak on Aug 14? That was like 1.5 weeks ago

He's an active puller for them. In train-away meta, anyone who steps up is going to occasionally be at fault.

Ofcourse, I would also expect him to know this instead of trying to insinuate that it's a one sided thing.