Is Bind Wound worth learning for a Shadowknight?

[Loadsamoney]

Pallies are capped at 210, aren't they? The only Hybrid that can go above 200.

Warrior (Max 210)
Monk (Max 210)
Rogue (Max 210)
Ranger (Max 200)
Bard (Max 200)
Paladin (Max 210)
Shadow Knight (Max 200)
Shaman (Max 210)
Cleric (Max 210)
Druid (Max 210)
Enchanter (Max 100)
Magician (Max 100)
Necromancer (Max 100)
Wizard (Max 100)

IMO, if any hybrid should be able to go above 200, it's Shadow Knights, as their lack of healing magic makes them benefit far more from Bind Wound.

[Snaggles]

Ah ok, I’m wrong there. I have 0 skill so assumed it was the same. Also my BW math was wrong vs clicking. At 200 skill DW Helm is 2x the speed. At 210 it’s still 1.5 the speed.

The persisting question is: why? Unless your DW Helm is blocked by a greater cleric/druid hp/ac buff it’s still slow HP recovery.

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ah ok, I’m wrong there. I have 0 skill so assumed it was the same. Also my BW math was wrong vs clicking. At 200 skill DW Helm is 2x the speed. At 210 it’s still 1.5 the speed.

The persisting question is: why? Unless your DW Helm is blocked by a greater cleric/druid hp/ac buff it’s still slow HP recovery.

I was just about to say, doesn't DW helm require you to purge your HP/AC buff if you have a better one (I.E you're 49 and using Valor)? Then you have to recast it once you're done healing, and that's still mana spent.

[Snaggles]

Valor is like 200hps vs 125hps. It lasts about twice as long. The only time I use it if tossing hps on lower level players.

I used my DW Helm exclusively for solo until 59. Even in duos between fights to heal up. It’s extremely good. The BP is even better and rarely blocked but almost half the price of a fungi.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Valor is like 200hps vs 125hps. It lasts about twice as long. The only time I use it if tossing hps on lower level players.

I used my DW Helm exclusively for solo until 59. Even in duos between fights to heal up. It’s extremely good. The BP is even better and rarely blocked but almost half the price of a fungi.

As low as 11k for DW Breastplate recently while Fungi is still selling for 55k+. Hard to believe it's so cheap, even for an unpopular class. Makes getting back to full health easy after rez, in the unlikely even that a Paladin dies.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As low as 11k for DW Breastplate recently while Fungi is still selling for 55k+. Hard to believe it's so cheap, even for an unpopular class. Makes getting back to full health easy after rez, in the unlikely even that a Paladin dies.

Yea it’s soo good.

For 6 gold you can also give 307 hps to anyone who doesn’t have a symbol. Which is fairly common on raids for non-tanks or even dispel fights.

Also if you group with a POTG non-torp sham it’s basically endless mana for them between fights. No, it’s not torp but burning jaspers to hold a camp or get people buffed is a nice compromise.

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea it’s soo good.

For 6 gold you can also give 307 hps to anyone who doesn’t have a symbol. Which is fairly common on raids for non-tanks or even dispel fights.

Also if you group with a POTG non-torp sham it’s basically endless mana for them between fights. No, it’s not torp but burning jaspers to hold a camp or get people buffed is a nice compromise.

What does a Bind Wound Macro prohibit you from doing if you use it in combat? I'm very active with my rotations on Kick/Slam, short-term buffs like Yaulp, and applying DoT's and Nukes in between (usually waiting until after an enemy makes a Bash attempt).

[Snaggles]

Casting while bind wound will make the bandage attempt fail.

You would have to cast then use the bind wound macro. A PITA with Yelp and frankly until Y4 it’s kind of a waste of mana. A SK is likely better off tapping to 50% then switching to bandages to extend the fight. A paladin can root and step back 5 feet to click their Helm. Or even root joust then root and click back hps. At 51+ the 8.4hp/sec regen is nice but won’t change what you can do unless you are a monk or warrior.

I still believe best hybrid candidate for bind wound is the ranger (That said my 60 has never done it; learned about battle bind too late). That said, a half health ranger doesn’t last long. Maybe bard but I don’t know how the songs/skill work with that class. Standing in one place is usually how a bard dies.

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Casting while bind wound will make the bandage attempt fail.

You would have to cast then use the bind wound macro. A PITA with Yelp. A SK is likely better off tapping to 50% then switching to bandages to extend the fight. A paladin can root and step back 5 feet to click their Helm. Or even root joust then root and click back hps.

Again the best hybrid candidate for bind wound is the ranger (That said my 60 has never done it; learned about battle bind too late). Maybe bard but I don’t know how the songs/skill work with that class. Standing in one place is usually how a bard dies.

Using Kick or Bash won't interfere with it though?

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Loadsamoney [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Using Kick or Bash won't interfere with it though?

No