Is Bind Wound worth learning for a Shadowknight?

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That works too. But you get my point. If you can throw 10k+ at an alt, it shouldn't be too hard for you to farm another 10k, and it is definitely worth it. SKs have a harder time self healing when low level life tap targets are not present in the zone, or the area you are camping. Having a regen item and bind wound will speed up your recovery process significantly, which means more kills per hour.

Iksar BP gives you 3000HP/Hour. That is 1-3 additional full HP bars per hour, depending on your level.

Bind Wound at 100 skill gives you 40 HP per bind wound. That is 400HP per 10 binds. If you do 100 Binds per hour, that is another 4000HP/Hour.

That is a total of 6000-7000HP/Hour at least. For context, a Fungi Tunic is 9000HP/Hour. So for 1/5 of the price of a Fungi, you get 2/3 of a Fungi Tunic. This strategy does require you to go down below 50% more often, so you can bind, but it is certainly doable if you know how to handle the mobs you are fighting.

Well, I definitely plan to save any bandages I get early on and use them to jumpstart Bind Wound. And since I have Slam I can skip a 1-hander and shield probably and just live on 2-handers. That's money saved right there.

If I just go for SCHW, 2 Velium Fire Wedding Rings, a couple of starter 2h weapons (Deathbringer's Rod and Green Jade Halberd) and some various low-mid range Str/Sta plate, that's about 5k at most, and I can definitely afford that.

But Innothule Swamp is not going to work out for me. Nearly everything here is KoS and I only want to be killing Decaying Skeletons. I won't be able to transfer anything here either.

I need to find a way to get to Neriak on this character.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Agreed. That is a good start, and much cheaper. That will allow you to save for the regen items. You do want to skill up all of your weapon skills each level, this will save you pain later on.

Deathbringer's Rod and Green Jade Halberd are great options for your 2hb and 2hs, and will probably be your primary damage dealers.

For cheap 1hs, 1hb, and pierce to level up your skills, these are good, very cheap options:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Spine_Piercer
https://wiki.project1999.com/Sporali_Defender%27s_Blade
https://wiki.project1999.com/Deadwood_Stave

In terms of starting zone, you should move to Feerrott. Much easier to get to, and all the lizardmen/tadpoles drop basically the same stuff as decaying skeletons. That zone is much better than Nek Forest for cloth armor, weapons, etc.

EDIT: Ah, if you are trying to maximize bone chips, then yeah the lizardmen/tadpoles won't help. You should be able to get a port to Nek forest if you line it up with a friendly Druid. Get a SoW/Invis and a teleport to West Commons. Not sure if a Wizard port to Nek Forest would be good, since the Skeletons around the Wizard Spire would probably kill you, unless you have a SoW/Invis vs Undead.

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed. That is a good start, and much cheaper. That will allow you to save for the regen items. You do want to skill up all of your weapon skills each level, this will save you pain later on.

Deathbringer's Rod and Green Jade Halberd are great options for your 2hb and 2hs, and will probably be your primary damage dealers.

For cheap 1hs, 1hb, and pierce to level up your skills, these are good, very cheap options:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Spine_Piercer
https://wiki.project1999.com/Sporali_Defender%27s_Blade
https://wiki.project1999.com/Deadwood_Stave

In terms of starting zone, you should move to Feerrott. Much easier to get to, and all the lizardmen/tadpoles drop basically the same stuff as decaying skeletons. That zone is much better than Nek Forest for cloth armor, weapons, etc.

It's the bone chips I want to be farming, that's why I only want Decaying Skeletons. I'm used to grindind them in Freeport and maybe a little Butcherblock.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Yeah I just realized that. Should be easy enough to line up a port from a friendly Druid to West Commons. Just have tip money, and get a SoW/Invis before hand. Then you can run to West Freeport and get bound there, away from the guards.

[DMN]

Skyfire to level 10, then ebon mace until you can afford a high end weapon. Maybe a lance or something would be the best bang for your buck as a large race?

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I just realized that. Should be easy enough to line up a port from a friendly Druid to West Commons. Just have tip money, and get a SoW/Invis before hand. Then you can run to West Freeport and get bound there, away from the guards.

Ideally, if I follow the path my Ranger took, I'd want:

1-5: newbie zone Decaying Skeletons.
5-12 Orcs near and in Crushbone.
12-18: Bandits in LFay.
18-22: Estate of Unrest
22-25 Mistmoore Castle
Then High Keep until at least 36, or however strong enough I need to be for Crystal Caverns. This time I'd just skip Goblins and go straight to camping Guards. I'd be close to Rivervale as well, so Halfling Guards would be an option too.

[DMN]

If you already have a decently leveled character it's not worth your bother to worry about bonechips. You just want the best exp you can get, Of course you could kill 2 birds with one stone and get bound at kaesora and do FoB/Kurns.

You won't using bind wound too much after you can can reasonably fear kite stuff. It will still come up every once in awhile where you are relatively full on mana and have taken a lot of damage though, and it will be nice to have the skill.

And as a side note: Can any paladin confirm that their skill cap actually goes to 210? I don't think it's supposed to. i think all the hybrids should cap at 200.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I agree with DMN there, bone chips are pretty easy to get overall. Also, as an SK, I tend to use my pet less than an Necro would. Not all situations are good for pets, and early on their DPS is pretty low.

Good catch on sword of skyfire, that is probably better for 1hs skill ups that sporali blade, and probably easier to buy.

I didn't mention ebon mace due to his current plat limitations. Ebon mace is defiantly the best ratio weapon you can get if you are willing to buy it, and it pairs with a shield. However, the ratio isn't that much better than Deathbringer's Rod, and it costs a lot more. Rod is 0.75 ratio, and mace is 0.79. Also, with the two hander improvements for SK in the recent patches, the two hand bonus may be better than the 0.04 ratio increase.

[Loadsamoney]

I could always do it the traditional way and just play this new Troll SK completely unfunded, bareass naked and having to fight tooth and nail, with rusty weapons and cloth armor, until I pull myself out of the muck.

In some ways I find the game more fun to play in that manner. Though this is already a hard race/class combo to level (mainly because of faction), maybe I shouldn't be making it harder than it needs to be. Most of the gear my ranger has can be used by the SK if I just transfer it. Even one of its Lamentations wouldn't be bad early on (it still uses Dual Lammies at 45).

Either way, none of it would matter until I'm able to safely run myself to EC.

[BlackBellamy]

Originally Posted by Loadsamoney [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll never know) and can only heal up to 50%, is it still worth training as a Shadowknight, or should I just rely on my regen as a Troll?

Well you got that 7.2k so you buy 663 bandages and 1 hour and 51 minutes later you're strutting around Norrath satisfied that while you might never need it yourself, you are always ready to expertly bandage others who are hurt and need your help.

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